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Too many game spoilers in your screenshots and article, so I wasn't able to read it.
[Posted by: SpoilerAlert 
| Date: 08/03/04 09:35:22 PM]
| Date: 08/03/04 09:35:22 PM]
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Be Doomed: Performance Preview of the Doom III Game
Started by: SpoilerAlert | Date 08/03/04 09:35:22 PM
Comments: 34 | Last Comment: 08/28/06 10:14:40 AM
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Where are the plain 6800 benchmarks with 1600x1200 and eye-candy? Could it not run or something?
[Posted by: Possible Plain 6800 Buyer | Date: 08/04/04 01:25:52 AM]
| Date: 08/04/04 01:25:52 AM]3.
N/M I found the comment. Too little memory I guess...hmm
[Posted by: Possible Plain 6800 Buyer | Date: 08/04/04 01:29:42 AM]
| Date: 08/04/04 01:29:42 AM]4.
To quote
"There is absolutely no music in the game. Nothing to fuel your imagination except in-game sounds. Furthermore, corps do not stay even for a minute, which is also a part of nearly all contemporary game."
"There is absolutely no music ? there is in-game sounds? "
I think you are incoorect on this and slightly misleading , yes there is no music (What music like UT/Q3 as stated in opening this is SP not DM)
I think music would detract , listen to the original doom CD not quite "music but abient music/sound" and it is regarded as one of the alltime greatest sound for a game. Doom 3 reflects this
Furthermore, corps do not stay even for a minute, which is also a part of nearly all contemporary game."
Wrong again this is depenendent on system memory and game settings and state of play within the level, as with the majority of SP FPS games.
As for the rest of the review/guide its ok :)
"There is absolutely no music in the game. Nothing to fuel your imagination except in-game sounds. Furthermore, corps do not stay even for a minute, which is also a part of nearly all contemporary game."
"There is absolutely no music ? there is in-game sounds? "
I think you are incoorect on this and slightly misleading , yes there is no music (What music like UT/Q3 as stated in opening this is SP not DM)
I think music would detract , listen to the original doom CD not quite "music but abient music/sound" and it is regarded as one of the alltime greatest sound for a game. Doom 3 reflects this
Furthermore, corps do not stay even for a minute, which is also a part of nearly all contemporary game."
Wrong again this is depenendent on system memory and game settings and state of play within the level, as with the majority of SP FPS games.
As for the rest of the review/guide its ok :)
[Posted by: Myself | Date: 08/04/04 05:18:39 AM]
| Date: 08/04/04 05:18:39 AM]5.
I don't think I want to rush things and buy GForce 6800 just because outperforms ATI X800 in Doom III by 40-60%. I will rather wait for Half Life 2 which can be called game, not time killer like Doom III ...
The second thing is that when in past some test said that Nvidia is better it wasnt exactly true on computers with slower procesor than processor used in tests ... And I am still disgusted by Nvidias "lying" with anisotropic filtering and I still don't believe that their cards are not doing the same ... But in present with something else
The second thing is that when in past some test said that Nvidia is better it wasnt exactly true on computers with slower procesor than processor used in tests ... And I am still disgusted by Nvidias "lying" with anisotropic filtering and I still don't believe that their cards are not doing the same ... But in present with something else
[Posted by: LittleClone | Date: 08/05/04 04:40:39 AM]
| Date: 08/05/04 04:40:39 AM]6.
I think Doom3 is a comeback for NVidia...
[Posted by: KorbenDallas | Date: 08/05/04 06:54:54 AM]
| Date: 08/05/04 06:54:54 AM]7.
I find it slightly annoying that you spend 4-5 pages whining about the graphics. Especially since they are the best graphics I've seen in a game to date (including Far Cry).
It's a benchmark, so why do you spend 1/5 of the article on ranting? Do you feel a need to stand out as the only one disliking the graphics? You snobby snobb :p
I hope this has no connection with the doubtful article on 6800 vs X800.
It's a benchmark, so why do you spend 1/5 of the article on ranting? Do you feel a need to stand out as the only one disliking the graphics? You snobby snobb :p
I hope this has no connection with the doubtful article on 6800 vs X800.
[Posted by: Guest | Date: 08/05/04 03:36:33 PM]
| Date: 08/05/04 03:36:33 PM]8.
in the image comparison's I see a slightly cleaner output on the 6800's ,
compare these two shots:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/doom 3/4_ati.jpg&1=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/doom 3/4_nv.jpg&1=1
At about the center of the screen, up on the ledge you see a rectangular floor tile laying sideways ,it has a design on it ..this is noticably more detailed on the nvidia shot.
compare these two shots:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/doom 3/4_ati.jpg&1=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/misc/picture/?src=/images/video/doom 3/4_nv.jpg&1=1
At about the center of the screen, up on the ledge you see a rectangular floor tile laying sideways ,it has a design on it ..this is noticably more detailed on the nvidia shot.
[Posted by: jrw | Date: 08/05/04 10:21:38 PM]
| Date: 08/05/04 10:21:38 PM]9.
Good article gentlemen. Your feelings about the game echo my sentiments.
Perhaps people still haven't understood that JC's Z-Fail shadow approach (Carmack's Reverse) is specifically accelerated by Nvidia's chips. This does not mean that other game engines will take D3's approach of low poly, bump map, shadow volume approach. Indeed there's argument that this causes more performance issues than it solves - unless you have dedicated hardware capable of Z-Scissoring...
Perhaps people still haven't understood that JC's Z-Fail shadow approach (Carmack's Reverse) is specifically accelerated by Nvidia's chips. This does not mean that other game engines will take D3's approach of low poly, bump map, shadow volume approach. Indeed there's argument that this causes more performance issues than it solves - unless you have dedicated hardware capable of Z-Scissoring...
[Posted by: KazaaLite | Date: 08/06/04 04:48:16 AM]
| Date: 08/06/04 04:48:16 AM]10.
Nvidia has just on this game a better performance - watch out for the next games, it'll be the same performance again.
[Posted by: Daniel D. | Date: 08/07/04 12:17:10 AM]
| Date: 08/07/04 12:17:10 AM]11.
Spoiler: ?Hellhole? level includes running though corridors to the place of the great challenge: the fight with the ?censored?.
Really great, why did I read this article at all? Damn you...
Really great, why did I read this article at all? Damn you...
[Posted by: zenit | Date: 08/12/04 05:59:16 AM]
| Date: 08/12/04 05:59:16 AM]12.
Who runs faster the game, AMD or Intel processors?
I think someone must write a game guide, even with an Ati 9700 and 512MB of RAM the game runs too slow on my system, there is ALOT of harddisk access during game play, surely slowing it, decreasing a lot the overall play experience. Or the minimum 384MB that the game require is for the minimum detail setting.
I'm starting to think, that the game is not very well "optimized".
I will wait for some patches and drivers, that maybe all that summed up give me some around 30% performance increase.
Time demos run faster over overall game play, maybe due to disk demo recording or extra calculations during demo recording VS less calculations during "playback"?!
But, buying a graphics card just because of a game... you must see the overall picture. And this doesn’t mean that all Doom3 engine based games will run faster on the nvidia cards is too soon, as Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Medal of Honor run faster with Ati, and Call of Duty differ from site to site review, some say it’s faster other slower.
I think someone must write a game guide, even with an Ati 9700 and 512MB of RAM the game runs too slow on my system, there is ALOT of harddisk access during game play, surely slowing it, decreasing a lot the overall play experience. Or the minimum 384MB that the game require is for the minimum detail setting.
I'm starting to think, that the game is not very well "optimized".
I will wait for some patches and drivers, that maybe all that summed up give me some around 30% performance increase.
Time demos run faster over overall game play, maybe due to disk demo recording or extra calculations during demo recording VS less calculations during "playback"?!
But, buying a graphics card just because of a game... you must see the overall picture. And this doesn’t mean that all Doom3 engine based games will run faster on the nvidia cards is too soon, as Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Medal of Honor run faster with Ati, and Call of Duty differ from site to site review, some say it’s faster other slower.
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