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Counter Strike: Source: Performance Preview

Started by: dan2097 | Date 08/21/04 02:49:33 AM
Comments: 47 | Last Comment:  11/26/07 10:43:59 AM

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Would you be able to elaborate a bit more on your testing methodology?

Specifically did you use control panel af or application af? Also I expect you used trilinear optimizations on the Nvidia cards right? Did you also use anisotropic filtering optimizations?

Im doing a bit of investigation to try and find out why sites are coming out with such different results

Dan2097 (Futuremark forum)
[Posted by: dan2097  | Date: 08/21/04 02:49:33 AM]
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Anton thanks a lot for the quick reply. Im havnt really looked at your custom benchmarked cs source benchmarks as as you say you can directly compare to other sites. I think the status of anistropic filtering optimizations could be the key to the differences between reviews as many sites probably use the default setting of anisotropic filtering optimizations off.

From a chat with someone in a 6800 when anisotropic filtering optimizations are enabled you get bilinear on texture stages 1-7 regardless of whether af is forced through the control panel or done by application preference. This should be reproducable under d3d af tester. ATIs on the other hand is undisablable but only acts when af is forced from the control panel.

My current opinion on this is possibly Nvidias anisotropic optimizations should only actually be enabled when doing comparisons using control panel af.

Does the X800 pro lead the 6800GT or do they ~tie when the 6800GT does no have anisotropic optimizations? However as you say and I tend to agree there is no difference between the x800s and 6800s image quality with anisoptopic optimiaztions on, thus even if I am correct there is a strong case for your comparison despite the possibly unequal workloads.

Also a bit unrelated, but do the gffxs actually get FSAA in cs source/the stress test. Techreport claimed they didnt :-S
[Posted by: dan2097  | Date: 08/21/04 05:46:41 AM]
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nice test, but what about the users NOT owning such an awesome system? its clear that css and hl2 will run fine on a system like amd64 3400+, 6800 or x800 card, 1GB LL-RAM...

what about systems like amd 2500+, geforce4ti or radeon 9500, 512MB RAM???
[Posted by: kuekue  | Date: 08/21/04 05:55:34 AM]
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Is the 5950 using the full DX9 codepath or a mixed mode? and could you do some benchmarks of lower end hardware? :
Gefoce 4 TI
Radeon 8500/9200/9000
9600/9500
Athlon XP 2500/3200
Pentium 4 2.4ghz/2.8ghz
512 RAM
[Posted by: Carbonated_Vodka  | Date: 08/21/04 06:29:25 AM]
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i noticed on some of the test's you had af set 8/16
which card's were running 8x af and which were running 16x?
[Posted by: badhabit  | Date: 08/21/04 05:09:03 PM]
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I thought NVIDIA optimizations where already gone?
If they don’t (or you didn’t disable them) why you didn’t you enabled performance mode on Ati 9x00 that would give much the same image quality of NVIDIA, but even that is not enough....

It’s not CORRECT that you put all the cards in the same chart if there are different render paths. You should have forced somehow all to render DX9 or used different color in charts or spare them.

[Posted by: I  | Date: 08/23/04 03:15:39 AM]
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i have graphics cards GeForce FX 5200 128 . will Counter Strike: l Source run good on my pc yes or no ? what fps will i get on my pc.
[Posted by: santy  | Date: 08/24/04 02:49:31 AM]

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Hey when is that new game of couter-strike comeing out because cyber-storm the manager showed me this and it was so cool when well you release it i want it so bad it is so cool can i get a free copy of it on my computer its the coolest
[Posted by: Hung Nguyen EFoG  | Date: 09/01/04 04:54:47 PM]

9. 
plz send me a copy
[Posted by: Hung Nguyen EFoG  | Date: 09/01/04 04:58:36 PM]

10. 
esta mortallll
[Posted by: dc  | Date: 09/02/04 03:45:44 PM]

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You guys showed the 9600XT, but don't say whether it is the 128 or 256 MB card.
I've got the higher one, so hopefully may get more power than what you're showing (if this is for the 128MB card).
[Posted by: Deviant  | Date: 09/15/04 07:37:15 PM]

12. 
noooo
[Posted by: mor  | Date: 10/14/04 01:49:36 PM]

13. 
I NEED THIS GAME PLISE
[Posted by: ITZIKS  | Date: 10/22/04 05:15:12 AM]

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i think counter strike source is the best game ever played . the grafics are great and the weapons are exalent . ive bought 70 games all together in my life and that game inclusing coundition zero are the best game ever . id give both of those games 10 /10 .
[Posted by: the gladiator  | Date: 12/15/04 07:10:17 AM]

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the game is the best but can i get a demo on my cumputer without the c-d from travis
[Posted by: tj  | Date: 01/03/05 09:21:12 PM]

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eu quero saber com faz para trocar a posição da arma do lado esquerdo (left hand) para o lado direito (right hand) ?????

o meu jogo é COUNTER STRIKE 1.6
[Posted by: fabricio  | Date: 01/08/05 06:29:45 AM]

17. 
i hate this game it sucks none should even ever try thsi low graffic game
[Posted by: jamesbond  | Date: 01/20/05 07:20:51 PM]

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goog graffics but shitty story mode
[Posted by: jamesbond  | Date: 01/20/05 07:22:03 PM]

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I think that Counter Strike Souce owns Joint Ops Escalation and Black Hawk Down!The graphics kick ass and the weapons rock,its hell of betta then the first!
[Posted by: LuDa_216  | Date: 01/25/05 09:17:06 PM]

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I am having trouble to see the images, they do not show here. All images where should shown fps comparison.


NAO CONSIGO VER NADA!.. as imagens sumiram eheh
[Posted by: spiderdk  | Date: 01/30/05 03:44:03 AM]

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