X-bit labs

Started by: stinkpuff | Date 10/11/04

Comments: 69 | Last Comment:  10/31/07

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1. its amazing that it can beat that 3.4E that only costs.. 8 times as much?

8 times as much????!!! The Pentium 4 E 3.4GHZ ihas MSRP of 278US, and the Sempron 3100+ has a MSRP of 12x US I dunno where your getting 8 times as much from more like 2.5 times as much.

i think he got mixed up with the EE (extreme edition) range.

woops, i didnt know there was ever a 3.4 northwood so i thought they were both prescotts and the e meant extreme edition.

2. Atlon64 3200+ DTR (ClawHammer 1MB) 2.0@2.5GHz SuperPI 1M = 35Sec
PC3200 Ballistix 2x 512MB FSB 1:1
DFI UT NF3-250 (HTT 4X)

3. What can you tell me about ASUS K8N-E Deluxe Chipset Nforce 3 250 for overclocking this CPU?

Not to take anything away from this site, but Anandtech has a review on that board.

4. Very good and informative review.

Thanks

5. Very good article, never knew it was that good - I had been avoiding that chip as the Athlon64 2800+ was about the same price but better performing. Just a shame you can't get NF3 250 Shuttles/barebones yet.

Actually, check out the Shuttle 95G5... http://us.shuttle.com/specs2.asp?pro_id=515

6. Great eye opener for me. Super article.

Would be nice to see what how an OC'd Stock AMD64 3000+ compares using it's stock cooling. Looking at newegg.com the prices of the mb, Sempron 3100, and Thermaltake Silentboost = $282. The Stock AMD64 3000+ plus a slightly cheaper but still great mb, the DFI "LANPARTY UT nF3 250Gb" = $298. Not much of a difference, but I'm sure the Silentboost is better than the stock AMD HSF on the AMD64 3000+. Also according to the messageboards over at Overclockers.com, the AMD64 3000+ has a 10multiplier instead of a 9 that the Sempron and AMD64 2800+ has... or something like that. All this multiplying and dividing is a little confusing to me since I haven't messed with these systems any.

Great article! Glad someone finally reviewed the 3100+.

I myself own this chip, and I run it in an ABIT KV* PRO.

My only disappointment with the piece was that the author failed to mention that the new VIA K8T800 chipsets have the pci/agp lock. Mine works great and I am currently running my Sempron 3100 @ 2.3 Ghz, 1.55 vcore, 256 FSB, LDT x 4 (1024 x 2 = 2048 die speed mem controller, 5/6 mem divider).

I does post at 5.25 like the articlle but is not stable. At 2.3 Ghz with the increasef FSB I am benching around A64 3400 levels (give or take) and for $169 CDN plus $130 CDN for the maotherboard I finally got in the game.

This is an ENTHUSIAST solution and if you're willing to tweak a bit it is about as good as it gets. I think we're finally seeing the old Tbred B and Barton Mobile days for socket 754 and A64. Woot!

7. It would be even nicer to see what a mobile Sempron could do in the mainboard, assuming it was supported by the BIOS, eg. the full range of low power/heat (9W at idle!) operation to a screaming overclocker.

How about a follow up, authors???

8. "My only disappointment with the piece was that the author failed to mention that the new VIA K8T800 chipsets have the pci/agp lock. Mine works great and I am currently running my Sempron 3100 @ 2.3 Ghz, 1.55 vcore, 256 FSB, LDT x 4 (1024 x 2 = 2048 die speed mem controller, 5/6 mem divider)."

You mean the K8T890 chipset.

No, I meant the VIA K8T800 PRO, but you are correct as well.

9. I'm going to be testing this out on a Asus K8N with a Zalman 7000Cu. I'll let ya know how it goes.

10. Nice, just picked one up last night from NewEgg for $100 and a Refurb K8T NEO-FIS2R for $45. Cant wait to get it and fire her up ;)

I was debating the Sempron vs. A64-2800 for a while, but for $37 more, why bother? When 64-bit OS actually arrives, I will then upgrade to a capable processor.

Just curious what they do to disable 64-bit? Is it a bridge setting, or a redesigned core? If it is a bridge setting, I wonder if a Pin mod would work to enable it...Hmmm.

AMD disables the additional 32 registers above 32-bit. This is hardware - physically left off the die, so no pin hack (or s/w hack) will fix. Can' fix what isn't there!

11. i wonder what this baby will do under water cooling

12. Prices going up??? Purchased mine on Thursday for $100, now NewEgg has them listed at $127....

13. The article is really an eye opener, i wouldn't think,that the "duron2" could bring that much performance for a small price....amazing!

I have a DFI lanparty nf2 u w/ a 2500+ barty, and i'm seriosly thinking about switching to S 3100+ coupled by an MSI K8N Neo platinum....that would be a dream come true.... :)

14. Got it running on the Asus K8N. Rock stable at 2.4Ghz! Been running Prime95 on it for over 48 hours without a hickup.

Seems to be stable at 2.5 also, but at 2.6 it starts choking.

what kind of cooler do you have on the cpu, and the chipset?

15. How about a ASRock K8S8X ? Will it be good for overclocking this Sempron 3100+?

Or a Asus K8T800 ?

I found a third one...

EPOX S754 NFORCE3, FSB800, 8 CH, GLAN

Which one would be the best?

And btw, I have 333mhz ddr memory... Will it stop me from overclocking da Sempron 3100+?

16. How about, if I had DDR400 and a MSI S754 NFORCE3 250GB, could I overclock the Sempron 3100+ as well as done in the article?

17. give us the supported board of sempron, the advantages and disadvantages.

18. Your article is an excellent piece of work.
I do have a question.
what motherboard did you use for this test?
I having a hard time finding a right motherboard for the sempron chip.
Plus you mention that the chip would make made in 90nm core. Should I buy now when it is $100 or wait until the 90 nm core come out?
thanks

19. Jika memang prosesor ini sangat bagus kemempuan o/c nya maka kita harus mencobanya sebenarnya Unggulan AMD Yang mana sih? Saya sangat tertarik dengan bahasan ini.

20. Is there any comparison between AMD Sempron and Intel P4? I only have found Sempron Vs Celeron D, but we are not intrested on that comparison. We have tested them and Sempron is equal or better than P4, so we would like to see what other comparisons have resulted in.

Please if you have any info in regards, do not hesitate to contact us.

Thanks,

Claudia Villarreal

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