Have you took a look at Asus V9999 Gamers Edition? It can easily be overclocked to performance parity with 6800Ultra even if it has 12 pipelines! Instead of "when GT is more than ultra", you could say "when vanilla is more than ultra"!

Finally a very good review in which you can see the differences in clockspeed and temperatures. Made clear my mind about the 2400 GS and don't have to wait until december when the 2600 GS maybe becomes available in Holland.

I have a Gainward 6800GT GS but I'm having problems running it at 400/1100. When I run the 3Dmark03 demo it just freezes by about game test 2. There are no artifacts however. When I turn off fastwrites this problem dissapears and 400/1100 comes easy. Is this a problem with my card or my motherboard ? (MSI K8N Neo Platinum) Running 61.77 drivers and latest (1.4) bios for the mb.

Great review, thanks.

After being on a Laptop for the last 5 years due to uni I am finally building a myself a gaming rig and one of the first things I ordered was the Gainward GT GS (in the mail as I write).
However I have a question: The temps the card reached when at 430/1200 with fans at 50% Is that liable to be a problem in any way? Damage something / degrade lifespan etc?

Sorry about the noob question but like I say it's been a while.

Somebody anwser that guy, i also wanna know...

"The fans are rather loud at their full speed, but this noise becomes barely perceptible at 50%."

I don't agree. The noise at 50% speed is still very annoying when idle.

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