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Wheres the GF6800U?
[Posted by: Raoh 
| Date: 12/01/04 03:18:43 PM]
| Date: 12/01/04 03:18:43 PM]
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ATI RADEON X850 Platinum Edition: Good Things Go Better
Started by: Raoh | Date 12/01/04 03:18:43 PM
Comments: 50 | Last Comment: 05/15/07 06:46:06 AM
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why not just add a overclocker 6800GT to a ultra speed ???
[Posted by: ting | Date: 12/01/04 08:27:16 PM]
| Date: 12/01/04 08:27:16 PM]+ expand thread (1 answer)
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Hows the Image Quality of the Card Compared to the X800 XT PE?
Can you claim its just a re-spun X800XT Core? ... AKA: No real improvements, just another revision? :(
Is there going to be a power consumsion and heat dissapation article on this video card :)
Great review. Same old, really...
Can you claim its just a re-spun X800XT Core? ... AKA: No real improvements, just another revision? :(
Is there going to be a power consumsion and heat dissapation article on this video card :)
Great review. Same old, really...
[Posted by: MonkRX | Date: 12/01/04 08:39:31 PM]
| Date: 12/01/04 08:39:31 PM]5.
Sorry, I have read several reviews of graphics cards on this site and they are below average. While I like your choice of games, there is a large room for improvement in other areas.
Here are just three remarks/comments:
"ATI hasn’t yet managed to overwhelm the market with their RADEON X800 XT solutions, which are the direct competitor to NVIDIA’s best selling expensive graphics solution today – GeForce 6800 GT."
This is just a minor thing, but actually 6800 GT is positioned against X800 Pro.
"We selected the maximum possible graphics quality settings in each application – the same for cards on GPUs from ATI and NVIDIA (we disabled the Anisotropic mip sample optimization for NVIDIA’s GPUs)."
It is unclear. What about driver settings for ATI cards and Nvidia cards? It should be thoroughly specified. It would add credibility to the review.
"Aces in the Sky requires a high texturing speed as well as fast execution of pixel shaders. The GeForce 6800 GT is better in the first parameter, but the RADEON X800 XT and X850 XT PE are superior in the second. As a result, NVIDIA’s card is slightly ahead of the ATI cards, but the increased frequencies of the RADEON X850 XT Platinum Edition help it to keep on about the same performance level."
Forgive me, but this is not correct. Geforce 6800 GT has much lower texture rate than both X800XT and X850XT, however, its executes most of shaders quite a lot faster (per clock) than both Radeons. It is not the first time I saw such a comment in graphics reviews on Xbitlabs and I can draw only two conclusions:
1. You lack certain knowledge (I doubt it).
2. You are just ignorant.
Just my three cents.
Here are just three remarks/comments:
"ATI hasn’t yet managed to overwhelm the market with their RADEON X800 XT solutions, which are the direct competitor to NVIDIA’s best selling expensive graphics solution today – GeForce 6800 GT."
This is just a minor thing, but actually 6800 GT is positioned against X800 Pro.
"We selected the maximum possible graphics quality settings in each application – the same for cards on GPUs from ATI and NVIDIA (we disabled the Anisotropic mip sample optimization for NVIDIA’s GPUs)."
It is unclear. What about driver settings for ATI cards and Nvidia cards? It should be thoroughly specified. It would add credibility to the review.
"Aces in the Sky requires a high texturing speed as well as fast execution of pixel shaders. The GeForce 6800 GT is better in the first parameter, but the RADEON X800 XT and X850 XT PE are superior in the second. As a result, NVIDIA’s card is slightly ahead of the ATI cards, but the increased frequencies of the RADEON X850 XT Platinum Edition help it to keep on about the same performance level."
Forgive me, but this is not correct. Geforce 6800 GT has much lower texture rate than both X800XT and X850XT, however, its executes most of shaders quite a lot faster (per clock) than both Radeons. It is not the first time I saw such a comment in graphics reviews on Xbitlabs and I can draw only two conclusions:
1. You lack certain knowledge (I doubt it).
2. You are just ignorant.
Just my three cents.
[Posted by: Curious | Date: 12/02/04 03:15:58 AM]
| Date: 12/02/04 03:15:58 AM]6.
What about 6800 Ultra ????
[Posted by: Tee | Date: 12/02/04 05:54:53 AM]
| Date: 12/02/04 05:54:53 AM]7.
may i ask what was wrong with the 6800gt in the half life 2 tests, i have a 6800gt on my rig, but ive only got a 3.2b pentium 4, yet my frame rates are way higher than yours in all tests, your scores dont seem acurate, even when i clocked my p4b down to its original 2.4ghz, it was still way faster than the tests.
[Posted by: warhorse | Date: 12/02/04 11:37:54 AM]
| Date: 12/02/04 11:37:54 AM]8.
I don't mean to offend, but this review just looks sloppy...
First, you leave out a major competitor in the market, the 6800 Ultra. I understand why, and if it was me doing the review, it would be a valid reason. But this is Xbit Labs... don't just do without... find one, or don't publish the article yet.
Second, you use substandard hardware for your test. The Pentium 4 560 is FAR from the fastest gaming processor, which is what you should use for a gaming test of a new video card. Get an FX-55 in there and it'll be a more valid comparison.
Third, as somebody already pointed out... a 6600GT being faster than a 6800GT should never happen... and I don't mean should like I just don't want it to happen... I mean it shouldn't be possible, so it would seem there's a fault with your custom demos.
First, you leave out a major competitor in the market, the 6800 Ultra. I understand why, and if it was me doing the review, it would be a valid reason. But this is Xbit Labs... don't just do without... find one, or don't publish the article yet.
Second, you use substandard hardware for your test. The Pentium 4 560 is FAR from the fastest gaming processor, which is what you should use for a gaming test of a new video card. Get an FX-55 in there and it'll be a more valid comparison.
Third, as somebody already pointed out... a 6600GT being faster than a 6800GT should never happen... and I don't mean should like I just don't want it to happen... I mean it shouldn't be possible, so it would seem there's a fault with your custom demos.
[Posted by: Jeff7181 | Date: 12/02/04 01:59:13 PM]
| Date: 12/02/04 01:59:13 PM]9.
It’s not the review that its sloppy its this new Ati card!
Intel has the 3.4 GHz processor and releases a new 3.45.....
Very weak. I don’t understand why aren’t enough X8xx cards? And just because X850 is out there will be a lot? Why didn’t they keep the same name and deliver more X8xx cards?
Or is this "new" X850 the PCIe version while the others X800 are AGP?
Ati is going down if nvidia releases a soon 6900 512MB and 500 MHz clock, Ati luck is that I doubt nvidia could do this.
Intel has the 3.4 GHz processor and releases a new 3.45.....
Very weak. I don’t understand why aren’t enough X8xx cards? And just because X850 is out there will be a lot? Why didn’t they keep the same name and deliver more X8xx cards?
Or is this "new" X850 the PCIe version while the others X800 are AGP?
Ati is going down if nvidia releases a soon 6900 512MB and 500 MHz clock, Ati luck is that I doubt nvidia could do this.
[Posted by: I | Date: 12/03/04 08:23:55 AM]
| Date: 12/03/04 08:23:55 AM]10.
I agree with other posters. You should have waited until you had a 6800 Ultra before publishing. You obviously went to a lot of effort in this review, but I skipped about 20 pages worth of comparisons since the numbers are meaningless given the cards you compared against. It's really a shame.
I hope you add the 6800 Ultra and re-publish the article. Then I'll give it a more serious read. Oh, the first couple pages were nice though.
Also, the chart comparing the various ATI cards was nice, but please add the manufacturing tech process (0.11micron, etc.), total transistor count, typical connector (Dual DVI vs DVI+VGA, etc.).
I hope you add the 6800 Ultra and re-publish the article. Then I'll give it a more serious read. Oh, the first couple pages were nice though.
Also, the chart comparing the various ATI cards was nice, but please add the manufacturing tech process (0.11micron, etc.), total transistor count, typical connector (Dual DVI vs DVI+VGA, etc.).
[Posted by: HermosaBeach | Date: 12/04/04 11:06:40 AM]
| Date: 12/04/04 11:06:40 AM]11.
THIS IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Posted by: Milan Korda | Date: 12/04/04 06:24:15 PM]
| Date: 12/04/04 06:24:15 PM]12.
You are doing something badly wrong in your latest benchmarks. Why are the 6800gt scores HIGHER in far cry with FSAA/Aniso? In Research for example it goes up by 3fps. I'd suggest ditching the minimum fps scores completely as well. Ideally we could properly bench min fps but no-one else uses them because they know that they're COMPLETELY UNRELIABLE. Min fps in pier for the 6800gt is 35.6 in 1024x768 and 43.2 1280x1024. If benchmarks are done properly THIS NEVER HAPPENS. I own a 9800pro so I'm no nvidiot or whatever they're called, I just know when I see BS. If there is an anomoly like this you should at least point it out and explain it. This whole site is bit of a joke to be honest, where are the drop-down menus? Having to go back and forther to browse through different results is a pain in the neck. Rant over.
[Posted by: A1 | Date: 12/05/04 06:22:21 AM]
| Date: 12/05/04 06:22:21 AM]15.
I have had my ati 850 xt for 1 week now.
When I run the game Flat out, I can only play for 20 minutes before the ATI card overheats.
When I run the game Flat out, I can only play for 20 minutes before the ATI card overheats.
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