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DDR2 vs. DDR: Revenge Gained

Started by: Carfax | Date 12/19/04

Comments: 57 | Last Comment: 05/01/08

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1. Something is definitely wrong with the gaming benchmarks. Of all the games, Quake 3 should have shown an increase on DDR-667, but it didn't?!

[Posted by: Carfax | Date: 12/19/04]

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2. It's also a shame you never did any benchmarks with the overclocked memory.

Other than that, a good review :) It's good to know that you can use aggressive timings at such high clockspeeds, without upping the voltage.

This speaks well for DDR2-800, which hopefully will be able to run at 4-4-4-12 in the future..

[Posted by: Carfax | Date: 12/19/04]

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3. The OCZ Plat DDR2 EB is also able to do those timings on dual 1gb sticks which you won't find on high performance DDR1. Up the voltage a touch to 2.1 or 2.2 (not high just a nudge) and you can do 3-2-2-8 up to 600, which gives you nice air oc'ing room.

Can't wait for the 600 series cpu's :)

[Posted by: Anemone | Date: 12/19/04]

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4. Other than the horrendous grammatical problems...

"You can see that DDR2-533 SDRAM with 4-4-4 timings has a half worse latency compared to the widespread DDR400 SDRAM."

(I could give more examples but I'd really rather not.)

...the article presents an unrealistic comparison of apples to oranges. For any of the types of ram they talk about, 2x512mb of DDR2 is approximately $350 - $400 USD. Now to buy 2x512mb of DDR400 with even better timings than the 2-3-2 or 2.5-3-3 they use in their comparison (i.e. 2-2-2-5 timings) it costs about $275 USD for either Corsair or OCZ. Or instead of the DDR533 they use in their comparison, why not use DDR550 which has the same timings as they list (2.5-3-3) and costs roughly $350 - 400 for the faster timings and $300 for the slower ones (2.5-4-4).

Why do they only compare the ram against each other, not against DDR400-DDR550? Wasn't that the point of this whole article?
After re-reading the conclusion I am still having trouble understanding what exactly the point of this article is. The article is called "DDR2 vs. DDR: Revenge Gained", (Sigh again with the grammar) yet I still don't see the 'benefits' of DDR2 yet.

1. DDR400 is approximately 25% cheaper, and DDR550 is comparable cost wise.
2. The high latencies (which have been improved) still make it inferior to DDR
3. Eliminating ONE of the main disadvantages of upgrading to a socket 775 board is hardly an endorsement
4. They never say that 3-3-3 timing DDR2-533 is faster than DDR-400, they just say it can now "challenge" it. That's another way for saying lose by 5-10%

Is this perhaps a copy of something written on Toms Hardware or was it emailed directly to you from someone at Intel?

[Posted by: orangefsh | Date: 12/19/04]

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5. Oh oh! I have a better idea for an article title.

X-Bit Labs: Respect Lost

[Posted by: orangefsh | Date: 12/19/04]

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So where are you Orangfsh???? If you are who i think you are i've been trying to hunt you down!! You dropped off the face of the earth.

tim_riis@scotiacapital.com

Get up with me dood!

[Posted by: R11S | Date: 09/28/05]

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6. Note you'll need to run the OCZ 4200EB modules at 2.0v - the recommended default voltage to get the 3-2-2-8 timings up to 620mhz.

Just noted in the testing that you ran them @ 1.9.

The timings and voltages need to be manually set in the Bios, they do not come on the SPD that way, but they do run just fine when manually set.

[Posted by: Anemone | Date: 12/19/04]

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7. I was going to add some things, but orangefsh pretty much summed it up for me. :)

This was a terrible "comparison". Don't attempt to review hardware, if you don't have a clue how. It is embaressing to watch.

[Posted by: SpinZero | Date: 12/20/04]

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Spinzero... it is 'embarrassing' that you can not spell, it is "embarrassing" not embaressing

It is amazing how many replys to the articles on this site are IRONIC!.

In the article are there any spelling errors?. NO, and the title " DDR2 vs. DDR: Revenge Gained" May be 'twisted', yet, is this a better title?
" DDR2 vs. DDR: revenge is best served cold".

[Posted by: queuetrip | Date: 12/21/04]

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Thanks for the help with my grammar, professor.

Now, do you have anything useful to say concerning the actual content of this article? Any retort for the points that orangfsh made? No? Well, thanks for playing anyway.

queuetrip: Jack-Ass Exposed

[Posted by: SpinZero | Date: 12/22/04]

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spinzero who are you?, Am I a professor just because I can spot an embarrasing spelling error???, why not just not just proof read your replys...