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More on DVD-Media Performance: Over 20 DVD Media Discs Tested with Four DVD Burners

Started by: halcyon | Date 06/30/05 11:53:15 PM
Comments: 20 | Last Comment:  08/25/06 08:53:53 AM

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Thank you again for a lot of work.

I'm afraid there are still some basic misunderstandings in the article.

Namely:

1. Errors are NOT on the discs. They are the result of a reading process.

2. Readability is a function of the DISC + DRIVE doing the reading.

3. The way reading strategy is set in each different maker/model of drive is different

4. When you combine 1+2+3 you need to understand that scan results from one drive can be very misleading.

5. Mediatek chipset has bugs (scan spikes) + not all mediatek chipset based drives are consistent in their reporting (LiteOn dvd-rom drives being a good example)

6. If your aim is to measure / extrapolate GENERAL quality or OVERALL readability/compatibility of the burns (and from this perhaps deduce the quality of the discs of and/or the burns) you cannot measure with one reader alone AND especially one of the best (lowest error rates) readers out there: LiteOn 1693s!! You need to measure with more drives and ones that are not so good readers.

7. Statistical analysis of the results. I'm sure you are capable of doing averaging, variance and correlation analyses on the data you have. This would be preferably to summarise the results, imho.

These are very fundamental assumptions about how to test media or drives.

I know you are very skilled and hard working.

I hope to see you improve the test methodology for the next round of tests you do.

You can discuss these issues for example at www.cdrlabs.com dvd forums.

You'll get plenty of help if you are interested in asking questions.
[Posted by: halcyon  | Date: 06/30/05 11:53:15 PM]

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The latest firmware for the Plextor PX-7120is 1.07 (release date 22 apr 2005)
and youhave used 1.02 (release date 04 Jun 2004)
[Posted by: franz99  | Date: 07/01/05 04:00:27 AM]

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As the owner of a Plextor 712 drive, I am very interested in the difference between the firmware you used and the latest firmware, 1.07, which was the firmware that shipped on my drive. Any chance of an update?
[Posted by: nick58b  | Date: 07/01/05 09:46:27 AM]

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Thanks a lot for the updated test, it seems you really listen to us.
What I really do not unsderstand is that in your conclusion you mention : "To our surprise, it was the Plextor PX-712A that experienced more problems with the media than the others in terms of both compatibility and quality of burning. But this is most probably the fault of the particular version of the drive’s firmware."
While you've been using Firmware 1.02 while 1.07 is already available, when I look at the list of changes (http://www.plextor.be/technicalservices/downloads/firmw_71 2A_versions.asp?choice=DVD-Recorders#712A-107)
I seems to me 1.07 over 1.02 is a mayor upgrade with respect to quality, you should have used 1.04 at least so the conclusions shouldn't be based on the plextors scores at all, since 1.04 was released august 2004 It seems you just forgot to update the firmware.
Then the LG drive is currently at A104 while you still used A100 (4 versions newer)
The NEC 3520A you used is at 1.04 while 3.04 is the current version (this is only one version newer and since 3.04 was released end april it might have been newer then the beginning of your test, so youre excused)
The Pioneer you used has firmware 1.17 while were currently at 1.55 (3 versions newer)

So please update the firmware when you do the next test and for this test you should rerun the plextor with 1.07 to make the results of it usable at all.
[Posted by: Willem B  | Date: 07/01/05 10:58:54 AM]
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the perfect combination..........
[Posted by: JJ  | Date: 07/02/05 12:40:43 AM]

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where are the taiyo yuden media?
[Posted by: semo  | Date: 07/03/05 04:27:21 AM]

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Excellent article. Is the first DVD-+R article I see with 4 diferent drives.Many thanks
[Posted by: chame  | Date: 07/03/05 05:12:14 AM]

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Maibe this article is old. Thats why there is old firmwares?

But i just wanted to make sure LG, is the best!!!!

Anyone know how to put it reading faster, it only reads DVD at 10X, 12X while the NEC does 16X, any trick?
[Posted by: kaz  | Date: 07/04/05 03:16:01 AM]

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mobile Disk USB
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mobile Disk USB
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