X-bit labs

Started by: boner | Date 10/24/05

Comments: 46 | Last Comment:  08/25/06

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1. you need your hearing checked if you think that's silent. :( The articles is good info to know generally speaking though.

10/10
As I have 1 of these ASUS cards I was wishing for this this facce-off.

Thank you for deliverin g an exellent article..

I am even more pleased now.

Probably you have a corrupted board or problems with drivers/BIOS. Our product is utterly quiet.

2. Just though comment on the no overclockability.. what about watercooling ?

Would be interessting to see the card hooked up to a Swiftech MCW55™ VGA waterblock.
[url]http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcw55.asp[/url]

We tested what we tested.

3. Ii was surprised to find the OpenGL testing results. the new hotfix released by ATi for their Xik family seems to have majorperformance gains in doom3/quake4, as detailed in this article
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/quake_4_high-end_performance/default.asp
were the x1800__ cards not tested with these newer drivers???

It takes a lot of time to prepare an article with the amount of tests and quality we believe is sufficient, which is why we tend not to use beta and non-WHQL drivers. At the time we prepared the tests there were no software from ATI that improved Doom III and Quake 4 performance.

4. The review was excellent.However, Leadtek WinFast PX7800 GTX reached 538 mhz gpu core.
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=184&page=1
Why the X1800 overclocking capability wasn't questioned in the article?Maybe cuz its pre-overclocked.

Currently there is no generally available software that is capable of overclocking ATI RADEON X1000-series hardware.

That is true, the most in depth coverage and tests i have read are on XBit Labs. Kudos for that.
Now when can we have this ATi hotfix investigated :)

We have plans to investigate ATI's fix, but we cannot tell when exactly. Within the following weeks.

5. Looks like you guys didn't use the OpenGL hotfix for the Ati X1K cards? In that case the OpenGL results aren't up to date anymore.

6. I know you spent a lot of time on this. I think the updated drivers help the 7800 series and would have been useful. ATI also could have made use of the Opengl updates. However, this amount of detail takes time so I'm grateful for the work.

I tend to like Leadtek's design a bit better, partially because it makes it very easy to add a larger fan for slightly better temp. But the Leadtek doesn't look like it needs it. As the poster above noted, the Leadtek can score in excess of 530mhz so not getting the Asus card higher is quite sad. Both the XFX and the EVGA solutions top 500 easily and in some cases 515-520 is not out of reach.

The leadtek looks like the best design so far, but there remains some questions as to what the solution will be when the 512mb cards arrive. Leadtek can probably just add a heatpipe or two that feeds over to the front heatsink array but the other designs are going to have issues if there are high heat memory on the back of the card. I do realize memory doesn't usually generate great amounts of heat, but these cards do seem to change that thinking.

Again, kudos for the detail of this article.

:)

Thanks for nice words!

7. hmmm......

8. A fantastic review but as the results in test seam to be very close why do you bother starting the x-axis from zero? why could you not chop it and therefore make space for a higher resolution X-axis.

9. In fact, only the memory reached its highest potential in ASUS EN7800GTX TOP. As for the core GPU, I managed to reach 530MHz without artifacts and rock stable, while I also reached 540MHz with negligeable artifacts, also rock stable. So, I guess you cannot say the board lacks the OC potential...

10. yo yo yo homiez 'n biatchez, how it be mothafukkin hangin??
zzzzzzzup wid da silent ass shit? mothafukka loud as shit! musta get em babanas stuck in they eaz o yoz cauzZ it aint aint nowhea nea noiseless, word homez!

11. I have this ONE card and overcloked it to 528/1380 ! SHE work without any fails :) Very impresive. Exelent work ASUS !

12. Nice reviews, but you need to learn how to speak English.

13. Another great article. However it does seem kind of unfair that your matching a stock x1800 XT against an overclocked 7800. When the software comes out for an overclocked x1800 it would be interesting to see how well it overclocks and gains performance on the 90 nm chips.

14. So the ASUS is like an overclocked 7800 gtx original card?, is it possible to overclock the "original" to the ASUS standards?

15. You got to be kidding me, stating that an overclocked graphics card is better than another at default! :|

You need to overclock the nvidia card just to match the ATI card.

LOL, i guess this is just marketing at work...

maybe you are missing something, this is sold like this its the default speed for this edition... its not like he took a card and overclocked it for the review.

I believe this was your final coments, now correct me if i am missunderstanding something here but i believe that a comparison with an overclocked card and a default one is stated.

"Talking about the speed of the Extreme GeForce 7800 GTX TOP from ASUS, we should note that it either beats or matches the RADEON X1800 XT 512MB at default clock-speeds in the majority of the benchmarks. There are a few cases when the RADEON X1800 XT 512MB has some noticeable lead over the overclocked GeForce 7800 GTX, but there are not a lot of such cases. In fact, we can definitely call the Extreme GeForce 7800 GTX TOP as the fastest graphics accelerator for OpenGL games to date. "

16. Great article ruined by the sole fact that the ATi X1k hotfix was not used in OpenGL games which would VOID the "Best in OpenGL" comment altogether.

17. How much does NVIDIA pay you?

18. This review was not interesting at all for one simple reason: the most of the games in your tests were not a challenge for these graphic cards.

What is the benefit for me in knowing that one card produced 1,000,000 fps while another 1,000,001 fps? Who will really appreciate this margin? Based on your review I can come to only one conclusion: all the cards are very fast, so the best one is the cheapest one. But who needs to buy those expensive cards for those lazy games?

The only bit that somehow drew my attention was that LOCK ON simulator made your winner card look pathetic with under 20 fps.

What about MS Flight Simulator? This is the ground where the margin of 10 fps will really make the difference and I would invest my money in the technology for every 5 fps.

I have a Pentium D with 2G DDR RAM class system and
I am looking for any dissent solution that will make my MS Flight Simulator experience enjoyable. The ASUS card is only 8-11 fps there, with settings not completely on its maximum and scenery is something like default Heathrow airport. Any increase in fps is really appreciated and the miracle card will be the one which will reach acceptable 25 fps first.

So, I think, all your hard effort did not help at all.

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