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S3 Chrome S27 Graphics Processor Review: Worthy Performance for Its Class?

Started by: ODi | Date 12/29/05 03:11:51 PM
Comments: 41 | Last Comment:  09/06/07 04:38:18 AM

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First build a solid architecture (check) then build the features on top. Hopefully better AA/AF results will come w/ the next generation of cards, but I'm already impressed with where they are headed. Great job S3.
[Posted by: ODi  | Date: 12/29/05 03:11:52 PM]

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Considering that S3 hasn't been able to put a single card into the market in numbers, and the reluctance of graphics card manufacturers to sell S3 cards (compared to ATI and Nvidia), I don't think the prospects are very good.

Might make a nice laptop chip though, if they make an MXM model.
[Posted by: Rookierookie  | Date: 12/30/05 02:15:38 AM]
+ expand thread (1 answer)

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Good Review, but
i only consider eye candy for a low end card as 8X AF and 0X AA.
I don’t think who is going to buy a budget card is interested in 4X AA and 16X AF numbers.

How about some pictures of the IQ and specially AF?
[Posted by: Kaz  | Date: 12/30/05 03:48:46 AM]

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Very promising card if only S3 would deliver much better drivers, which always have been a big problem for S3.
[Posted by: Artur  | Date: 12/30/05 07:55:05 AM]

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I hope S3 gets out to the high-end market with something really cool. I was just shopping for a video card today and found that ATI and nVidia just isn't enough for the gaming industry.

Just as I hope that VIA will start making useful processors (AMD and Intel just don't cut it for me).

More competition -> Lower prices -> Happy me

:)
[Posted by: Stas  | Date: 12/31/05 12:16:31 AM]

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a GPU to match the rest
like before and the time before that
the big probem is game support
if its not the battle between
LINUX Vs Windows
AMD Vs Intel
its nVidia Vs ATI
and for a 3rd company to nip in like S3 (who are they owned by now!!)
i think the only way is to copy the likes of nVidia and ATI so it can supported by games and then just leap ahead of them
Personaly i see S3 like SIS of the chipset, ok but not all there, now is the age of the SUPER powers, USA Vs USSR now replaced by the CPU/GPU/Chipset companys, and even then some companys are dipping there feet in to other waters, nVidia and ATI in to the Motherboard chipset.

How long before we see the likes of Intel and AMD buying ATI/nVidia or the other way around. Then we have VIA SIS and ULI sitting in the shadows, VIA better get with it, with nVidia/ATI holding the Graphics card maket, it wont take much for them to get that chipset market too. As nForce has done with the AMD CPU, where VIA was once king, then the slip up with the KT133/266 that had ever one waiting for the KT333/400a verisons that never seemed to come. Waiting because the KT133/266 where quickly replaced with the better and working KT133/266a
[Posted by: AngelLaHash  | Date: 12/31/05 08:38:28 AM]

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There are two architectural advances in the Chrome S27 hardware and software that are not mentioned in this article:

1. Similar to NVidia's TurboCache and ATI's HyperMemory, S3's Chrome S27 product offers a technology called AcceleRAM for very small sized video-memory(framebuffer) footprints. For an extremely affordable entry-level graphics card, the Chrome GPU can work with a single-chip 8Mx32 DDR3 (32MB). By taking maximum advantage of the 4GB/s per direction peak bandwidth of the x16 PCIexpress link, the Chrome S27 card can deliver a very impressive 1500 points in 3DMark05. You can't get anywhere close to that level of performance with Nvidia's 6200TC (turbocache) product. Why? Because NVidia's 6200TC only supports DDR1 memory which slogs along at a sluggish 350Mhz (700Mbits/s). Also, S3's chrome27 acceleRAM can work with 16Mx16 gDDR2 - with a 32bitinterface = 64MB running at 400Mhz (800Mbits/s), the card can easily outrun the fastest "integrated graphics" (UMA) chipset by at least a factor of 2. I think S3Graphics has a wonderful little affordable chip - it just hasn't reached anywhere close to its full market potential yet. Sure, it doesn't support ShaderModel3, but that is really beside the point. There are tens of thousands of applications that run perfectly well with ShaderModel2.


2. S3 also has an impressive MultiChrome configuration with two cards. They will start marketing this product in 2006 - the nice thing about their approach is that the MultiChrome will work on any motherboard that sports 2 PCIe slots! It does not matter whether the slots are (x8+x8), (x16+x4) or even (x16+x16) - their GPU can support all of those combinations. The synthetic benchmarks scale very very well with MultiChrome. (A 1.8x scaled score has been demonstrated more than once in recent weeks). Watch this product closely - it could deliver the biggest and best value in the "dual GPU cards" segment yet!

[Posted by: phileasfogg  | Date: 12/31/05 11:51:22 AM]
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hi
thanks for the good read
if they came out with that card for $100 to $125 i would buy it
[Posted by: sweet  | Date: 01/02/06 12:35:00 AM]
+ expand thread (1 answer)

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You could gave added 1 or two benchmark on linux to:
[Posted by: teroedni  | Date: 01/02/06 02:11:42 PM]

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missing price and linux game benchmark
[Posted by: teroedni  | Date: 01/02/06 02:12:17 PM]
+ expand thread (5 answers)

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talk about extremes in performance.. sounds like s3 needs a more experienced driver team
[Posted by: phil verhey  | Date: 01/08/06 10:09:34 AM]

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Good job, I wish they will done more susscesful in the future. I will buy their card if there are no problem with any games.
[Posted by: taitran  | Date: 01/13/06 01:33:11 AM]

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If I had to review your reviews, I'd give them a 11 out of 10. Hats off!

S3 has surely taken a huge leap. I'm an asian. Here people know S3 only for its low-cost UniChrome IGP. An S3 GPU challenging GeForce 6600 is truly out of the blue! I'd thought it'd be just another cutie SiS Xabre kind that looked up abitiously to the then Geforce4 Ti but nothing of this sort. Guys! Here's something to look out for!
[Posted by: Tarun aka. Shark TZ  | Date: 01/30/06 11:18:26 AM]

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sweet!!!

time to rise again S3!!!
Start another evolution for us!!
[Posted by: ferdie  | Date: 02/13/06 07:53:37 AM]

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HELLO!!!!
[Posted by: dj  | Date: 04/07/06 11:34:10 AM]

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current prices as of 5/12/06 for the S3 Chrome S27 are:

www.newegg.com
128mb card is $76.99 (USD)
256mb card is $99.99 (USD)

S3's online store: s3gstore.s3graphics.com
128mb card is $109.99 (USD)
256mb card is $139.99 (USD)

Fairly nice price on newegg, provided the driver problems are solved, I would buy this card. Provided they made an AGP version, I would buy another for my other computer.

Only time will tell, and so far, S3 is looking pretty good, the market needs competition these days, and ATI/Nvidia just aren't doing it.
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