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AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 CPU Review

Started by: AppleJack | Date 01/09/06 10:03:17 PM
Comments: 52 | Last Comment:  06/30/08 08:25:24 AM

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Intel finally did something right....65nm. Looks like 06 will be intel's year.
[Posted by: AppleJack  | Date: 01/09/06 10:03:17 PM]
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Dell is advertising an intel 955 oc to 4.26....so why not go 4.7 or maybe 5.0. I wonder how fast this bitch can really go??
[Posted by: curious  | Date: 01/09/06 10:17:56 PM]
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Thanks X-Bit for the Adobe, 3D Studio Max & Maya benchmarks
It's exactly what I've been after
[Posted by: RAISTLIN  | Date: 01/09/06 11:43:05 PM]

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I was wondering, let's said if increas the fsb-frequency instead of the multiplier for the Intel's 955 ExtremeEdition to 4.26GHz, will the results still the same??? Since Intel's Processors love high bandwidth and with high fsb-frequency, it takes advantage from the fsb bandwidth as well.

Evogenix
[Posted by: Evogenix  | Date: 01/09/06 11:50:12 PM]

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"This was actually one of the reasons why our article has been severely criticized by many readers."

Good to see that Xbitlabs does read the comments :)
[Posted by: Rookierookie  | Date: 01/10/06 12:10:02 AM]

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learn how to install a heatsink, and overclock. i know the FX-60 could do better than 2.9 GHz at a lower temperature.
[Posted by: AMDkid1@elp.rr.com  | Date: 01/10/06 01:01:54 AM]

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Great review. The directly comparing between 955EE and FX60 are the most important one. However I also liked to see the overclocked numbers. After reading a lot of reviews and forums, I must say that overclocking of the high end CPUs (with air-coolers and max. +10% in voltage, on good oc-boards like DFI/Asus), are more or less allways giving you these values:

Dualcore Presler (950/955) = 4.26GHz
Singelcore Cedar Mill (3.6GHz) = 4.5GHz
Dualcore A64 (FX60) = 2.9GHz
Singelcore A64 (FX57) = 3.0Ghz

Overclocking can of course be further improved with watercooling or phasechange. However these numbers has less interest to most of us. The overclocking results tells us:

1) Intel has with 65nm frequency room enough to release a dualcore 4.0GHz and singelcore 4.2GHz, if needed before Conroe.
2) AMD will probably only release the FX62 with the next improved manufacturing F-stepping on 90nm (expected to launch in april/may with a new air-overclocking limit around 3.5GHz).
3) After overclocking with air, AMD still tops out Intels dualcores in most cases (and always in games).
[Posted by: KDchamp  | Date: 01/10/06 05:37:42 AM]
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Well done i have only one complaint and that is the memory timings are not apple to apple

You have used Corsair 5400 UL @ 3-2-2-8 timings and it does make a differance.

But your review is much better than AT they used memory timings 5-5-5 -15

Buy the way it is not good to tell people that 2 gigs of memory is the way to go when it really helps only 1 game . Vista is not here yet.

So it looks like if you have water cooling like myself and you O/C the Both FX60 and Intel 955 ee the clear cut smart buy is Intel .

955@ 4700 would clearly dominate all the bench marks. On water 4700 GHz for the intel is not a problem . Maybe FX with hand picked core could get 3.2Ghz. The problem is the 955 doesn't have to be handpicked as these cores are hiting 5GHz easily
[Posted by: Zinn2b  | Date: 01/10/06 10:38:57 AM]

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It's unbelieveable that Netburst, a 5-year-old architecture STILL allows Intel to be competitive with AMD's best.

Yes, there is more heat and more power draw, but Netburst was not a bad way to go, all things considered. But it is dead, and hopefully the replacements (Conroe, Yonah) will be worthy competitors.

If Intel merely built an Athlon64 using their 65 nm process, they would be the undisputed kings of performance.

But the on-processor memory controller is not really a big deal - see some Yonah results versus the 3800 X2.

Competition certainly gives us consumers more and better choices!
[Posted by: Mark1  | Date: 01/10/06 10:46:25 AM]
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i found this article missleading in many ways.
Firstly the first rule of overclocking has always been.

Sacrifice the multiplier to achieve Higher Bus Speeds. This wasnt illustrated in the article and may have helped describe an Athlon X2 on M2 socket (with 667mhz Ram)

The sideaffect of this was highlighted in extreme rotation in results between the OC specimens particulay in Memory intensive Benchmarks. (Intel had its bus boosted) AMD had it's multiplier boosted


These indescrepencies added to the irrelevance of the excessive mention comparing Overclocked Processors


[quote]Unfortunately, the youngest dual-core CPUs from AMD cost much more than the competitor’s solutions, which have also migrated to a faster and more economical Presler core.[/quote]
i found this phrase a little misleading it seems to imply Intel Presler is faster and econical than AMD's low end X2s.
[Posted by: carl0ski  | Date: 01/10/06 08:25:35 PM]

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What? Only 2.9G?
It is FX-60?
Really, it is one unlocked CPU(picked from 4800+). FX is not more easy than X2 to overclock.
AMD fool us.

There is not any reason for buying it.
[Posted by: FX@2.9G can not still take over Presler.  | Date: 01/10/06 11:11:20 PM]

12. 
in china
[Posted by: i like canon a610  | Date: 01/11/06 04:12:35 AM]

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i was unable to figure out from the review if the current motherboards for the AMD X2 cpus will be able to use the new cooling technology of the cpu by simply upgrading the bios.
[Posted by: sergio rodrigues  | Date: 01/11/06 04:13:38 AM]
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I think that this chip would be a waste of money, considering that the M2 DDR2 65nm chips are right around the corner. Better just to wait, unless you got 1k to burn. Thats my 3 cents.....
[Posted by: Zinn2b  | Date: 01/11/06 10:44:06 PM]

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exelent AMD is my favorite procesor, exclusive for gaming performanse
[Posted by: seba  | Date: 01/13/06 11:26:02 AM]

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i wonder what amd has to show intel when the conroe come out? maybe they cam start making portable jukebox like apple for better profits then.
[Posted by: Calebwilliams  | Date: 01/17/06 01:11:16 PM]

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The Part related to the PC mark test, in it, it is stated that"When we overclock these CPUs, the picture changes". For the Fisrt test, not the CPU or memory test, the difference is less than 1%. So I do not know how such a statement could be made.
[Posted by: Mohammed Raei  | Date: 01/18/06 03:23:07 PM]

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overall they ae both great cpus and i would be glad to jack these from any of my rich friends
[Posted by: Calebwilliams  | Date: 01/19/06 02:43:02 PM]

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test the cup's in more games
[Posted by: Casper Unnerup  | Date: 01/22/06 11:11:21 AM]

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the best processorof the world!!!
[Posted by: rui  | Date: 02/03/06 08:05:41 AM]

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