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2GB of RAM: Do We Really Need That Much?

Started by: Tom_Hirst | Date 02/02/06 12:00:50 PM
Comments: 111 | Last Comment:  03/17/08 04:55:53 AM

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Interesting article, I think it would have made more sense to test each configuration with the tightest timings possible, so running the 2x512MB setup at 2-2-2-10, because not being able to run with these timings is a limitation of the 2x1024MB setup that you have essentially cut out of the picture. I don't know how significantly it would effect the results but it may make a difference.
[Posted by: Tom_Hirst | Date: 02/02/06 12:00:51 PM]
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Why didn't you try with one 1GB module alone?
(I built a pc for a guy that could only afford one and it rocked anyway)
It is clear to me that new mobo/cpu can handle more RAM than old nf2 board could.
I guess I have to change my mind about gains with more ram in "normal" pc's.

Anyway, keep up the good work!
[Posted by: peabrain | Date: 02/02/06 12:32:50 PM]

3. 
I concur that ONE Gb is sufficient for most applications including Performance applications.

Those who have excess cash can spring for 2 Gb. for gaming should they be inclined, though it's pretty tough to justify the expenditures fro Vid cards and DRAM.

Workstation folks always use large quantities of DRAM because it's useful for graphics intense applications, especially where time is money.

Most PC enthusiasts however really don't need 2 Gb.
[Posted by: Randy | Date: 02/02/06 01:22:13 PM]
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4. 
Nicely balanced review.

When I first saw the synthetic benchmarks with set scores and average FPS readings I was worried, but you rounded it out nicely at the end with some more practical uses and the FEAR FPS over time graph. Nicely thought of, and nicely done.

In general if I ever suggest people get 2GB it's rarely because I think they need it now. It's because they're not expensive, and they will most likely need it over the life of the computer - easier and probably cheaper to set it up now than later.
[Posted by: tantryl | Date: 02/02/06 07:00:04 PM]

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Yeah, and if you run 20 compies of 7-Zip then you will need 10GB of RAM... As well as if you edit 16000x12000 images in PS CS2... So, yes, 2GB is needed for certain people, just like some need 8 CPU / 10 SCSI HD sservers... :)
[Posted by: Stas | Date: 02/02/06 07:52:58 PM]

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I build systems & I can bring a 1GB RAM system to its knees easily with the top games & graphics software

1GB for standard PCs
2GB for high-end PCs
[Posted by: RAISTLIN | Date: 02/02/06 08:41:05 PM]
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to me @gigs of ram is a waste. The small increase when it does better is not worth the xtra $120
[Posted by: McJebdia | Date: 02/02/06 11:19:44 PM]

8. 
Hello,

It's good that you noticed that modern games can really use a lot of RAM. But I would hope you could have tested MMORPGs since they use even more RAM that Quake style games ever will.
I have played World of Warcraft and EverQuest 2 and I have noticed that both use a lot of RAM. EQ2 uses even more than WoW. EQ2 with modern video card/high quality settings practically REQUIRES 2 gigabytes of RAM.
[Posted by: Panu Rantanen | Date: 02/02/06 11:42:51 PM]

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I would have liked to see a test with Battfeild 2 in there. Since I've started playing it, and browsing through the BF2 forums, there seems to be a general consensus that BF2 needs 2GB.
I do agree though with the findings, for your run of the mill, everyday system, even with some modern games, 1GB should be enough.
Though that might change once Vista arrives :)
[Posted by: Stormrider | Date: 02/03/06 12:11:10 AM]

10. 
Hey, this article was actually very well done. It's a rarity in the "Internet Magazine" world. It wasn't an opinion peice being put out as something else, the benchmarks weren't too drawn out, the comments were informational, and in the end you pinned down exactly why synthetic benchmarks don't always indicate real-world performance. They don't take into account the user experience.
[Posted by: cbreaker | Date: 02/03/06 01:24:52 AM]

11. 
What you need is, 3.5 gig RAM and 2x Athlon 64 dual core.
The ultimate system.
[Posted by: Pirate Type, DJ_Pirate Type | Date: 02/03/06 01:33:25 AM]

12. 
I just bought Corsair XMS 3200PT 2Gb kit and with it i switched of the swap file on my system now my hdds arent used at all.

Anyway if you wanted a really memory intensive game you should have tried BF2. When everything is running high it uses up to 1.4GB of memory, which means 1GB wont do. Also COD2 might be good for 2GB it uses alot of video memory so it might benefit.
[Posted by: Syn. | Date: 02/03/06 02:47:05 AM]

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Developers need 2Gb too.

It's not unsual for me to run several virtual machines side by side. The servers I allocate 512mb RAM, the client machines 384mb.

Simply... without 2Gb I can run two virtual machines at the same time (host takes 512mb easily).

So developers, who seldom need the graphics capabilities, etc... will need 2Gb or even more if they use machine virtualisation as part of their day to day work.
[Posted by: DavidK | Date: 02/03/06 02:51:48 AM]

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When you have a computer with 2GB of RAM, a very benifit is too turn OFF the swapfile! Its not often you really willed it upp. The swapfile isnt nessary any more.
[Posted by: JoakimK | Date: 02/03/06 03:56:23 AM]

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Its almost a no brainer 1gig vs 2... but the better question would be... how much better is 4gig vs 2.

hope to read the answer in a future (sooner than later) article.
[Posted by: Val | Date: 02/03/06 04:40:57 AM]

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Wait until Vista comes out...
[Posted by: anonymous coward | Date: 02/03/06 05:09:36 AM]

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I don't even have to read the article to tell you, yes.
Everquest 2 is my MMO of choice and with 2gb's of memory, 75% of it is being used at any given time.
Whether its bad programming or not, the fact remains that with anything less than 2gb things get umplayable after zoning a couple of times. Forcing one to have to restart the client or sometimes fully reboot.
[Posted by: theFuzzyWarble | Date: 02/03/06 05:47:36 AM]

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This was a completely worthless article, something I am not accustom to on Xbitlabs.

First of you, you did not define what you meant by "contemporary computer system". It seems all the tests revolve around standard computer operation and games, which does not seem very "comtemporary".

Secondly, RAM is storage, albeit temporary. Increasing the amount will never improve performance much unless you are using MORE RAM. What's next? An article proving a bigger hard drive doesn't increase performance?

I really wish you guys had looked over the data and wondered "Is this worth publishing?", because from the looks if it, there was no other reason to post this article besides to try to coax ignorant people to not buy more RAM.
[Posted by: Mallissin | Date: 02/03/06 06:01:53 AM]
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Anyone who thinks 1gig is enough for the current day computer systems is an uneducated moron. Most games nowadays recommend at LEAST 1G to even be runable. THere are some software programs that have similar requirements.
[Posted by: C3 | Date: 02/03/06 06:30:07 AM]
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2 gigs of ram is basically usless once vista comes out
because you can just buy a jump drive and a add on to the ram
[Posted by: xpress200 | Date: 02/03/06 08:34:04 AM]
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