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Microsoft Recommends Xbox 360, Wii, Condemns PlayStation 3.

Started by: WhatIBelieve | Date 05/12/06 04:14:33 PM
Comments: 11 | Last Comment:  05/24/06 02:34:28 PM

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Sighs... Here we go again from M$... Saying all those things about SONY's PS3~ (-_-)a
Why buy PS3 when you can buy two consoles?!
XBOX360 and Wii~! Sure why not~ as if!
The price of Wii isn't even clear yet! As if do can buy two consoles, it costs more to buy games! Oh wait..! Not really since Wii is way~~~~~more BC than xbox360!!!
(MAN! YOU CALL THAT BC? YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!)

Anyway another point..

Microsoft’s Xbox 360 cannot play HD DVD movies by default, but requires a separate HD DVD drive, which costs additional money.

But Mr. Moore of Microsoft believes that in the game console world it is everything about the pricing and games, not additional features,

Uhhhh~~~!! Stop trying to slip away "which costs additional money. " but....

Whatever! I don't care what you guys think!! Keep your opinions to yourselves cause I don't believe in what you believe!
I am going to buy PS3 even though it's overpriced and I don't give a sh!t about what you think about me. Gamers are not all about the pricing and games, it is about their passion.

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[Posted by: WhatIBelieve | Date: 05/12/06 04:14:33 PM]
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M$ is completely wrong for thinking that in the game console world it is everything about the pricing and games.

In history, again and again, even though PS2 is more expensive than DreamCast, SEGA had lost her market from to Sony.

And again, Nitendo lost her market to PSP even though NDS is cheaper as well as featuring more so called "innovative" games.

The important is up until today, M$ still has no good games to drive her XBox sales, especially in the Asia-Pacific market. May be M$ should first take a look on Sony's award-winning games like EyeToy, Talkman, GT and Ace Escapes series and learn about "what really a console game should be!" before releasing next generation XBox
[Posted by: Aurora | Date: 05/12/06 08:58:58 PM]
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The only reason I would buy Xbox360 is DOA4 and DOAExtreme2, cuz Im AZN...

Halo 3 trailers wasn't so dazzling and amazing... Show me some game play!
[Posted by: MeAgain | Date: 05/13/06 12:46:29 PM]

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I normally don't like to agree with Microsoft, but in this case, I think Sony (a company I have worked for, so if anything I have a bias for them) is making a big mistake.

They are attempting to leverage the popularity of their Playstation series to make another, dubious technology (Blu-Ray) popular and the standard. It's inclusion is not about helping the PS3; they are willing to lose some PS3 sales in order to push Blu-Ray. As a matter of policy, this almost always fails and I think in this case it will as well. Not that the Playstation 3 will not sell at all, of course it will, but I bet the market share goes down from this. $599 for a game machine moves it out of an easy impulse purchase and becomes a pretty serious outlay. Without a doubt, there are some people that simply will look elsewhere. The percentage is the only thing people will differ on.

I think Nintendo is doing it the best. You'll always have the idiots that think they need more polygons or whatever to make the game better, but what makes games better is design and ideas. All three of these consoles have more than enough capability to play very enjoyable games. Heck, the Atari 2600 was fun to play. So, hardware will not make the difference between a game that is fun and one that is not, unless it deals with interaction between the human and the machine. That appears to be where Nintendo has excelled. Plus, it is apparently so cheap it is easy for parents to buy their kids as a Christmas present, whereas a $600 machine is just too expensive. Nintendo should be given as a gift a lot more often. Since the controls are apparently excellent, and it is cheap to buy, it will appeal to a very broad audience, since everyone cares about the controls, and most people need to worry about money.

You never can tell for sure, but I'd be real surprised if Sony didn't lose significant market share from this mistake. They'll get the loyalists, and the dorks, but they'll lose a lot of the more mainstream crowd that isn't addicting to games and has a real life, but enjoys playing games from time to time. They'll pay $200, but they won't pay $600.
[Posted by: TA152H | Date: 05/13/06 07:25:24 PM]

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Eh, if you read enough Microsoft announcements, this is just a PR tactic. Its to taunt their enemies and such, as well as twist the consumer view in their favour by delibrately pointing out their weaknesses and continually talk about it. (They do it TO EVERYONE that stands in their way!)

Microsoft isn't a high-end quality company like General Electric, IBM, et. They're just a two-bit organisation with the loudest bark. (If you seriously believe Windows Vista will solve all your security problems, you either a non-techie person or a no-clue fool that is ready and waiting to take it up the rear from Microsoft...AGAIN!)

They will use every dirty trick in the book, when it comes to competition. They will say one thing, but do another. They don't have friends but "business partners". (as in, companies only sign up with them due to economic benefits)...But when the time passes and the contract is over, MS will screw over their partners when it feels the need. Think about their anti-trust cases: US, Europe and South Korea...If you were a company, would you honestly do business with company that has been convicted as a monopoly? What about known to easily crush the competition?

They're delibrately taunting Sony, because Sony's PS3 stands in their way.

They do the same to Google, because Google stands in their way. (Yahoo recently told them to f**k off, when asked to join them! You see?! MS has no friends!)

They do it to Blu-ray, because its backed by Sony...Which stands in their way of console market domination.

Hell, they do it to the MIT PC for African kids because its NOT running Windows!

They do it to Linux, because open-source IS a threat to Microsoft.

This is not something out of the blue or new Microsoft behaviour, this is a standard tactic that you will all learn by looking at Microsoft's history. If you stand in Microsoft's way, they'll do anything and everything to humilate and distract you.

How can you beat them?

Do something that's better than them by a mile, and keep going at it such that its so far ahead that they can't keep up. As well, treat others like how you want others to treat you. (Don't do what MS does and screw everyone and customers over for more money!)

The key thing is, Microsoft can't innovate for the life of them. All they can really do is continually pound into your heads that they do. Next time, if you see, read or hear a Microsoft presentation or announcement, count how many times they say the words: "innovation" or "innovative". You'll see what I mean. :-)


Will I buy a PS3?...Hell no. They say it'll come with Linux, but you're so restricted that you're better off grabbing a regular PC or some embedded board to do your "projects".

You will NOT have access to various APIs needed to be able to play with the Cell processor OR understand how Nvidia's implementation works. Essentially, you've got jackshit to play with. Its not gonna get popular with the Linux crowd, because history indicates they've essentially done the same tactic as before, with the PS2. That didn't pick up because no one is stupid enough to pay extra for a Linux kit for the PS2!

Nintendo is staying out of the argument, because everyone in the tech industry knows Microsoft is full of shit. All Nintendo wants to do, is offer something fun and different. (From a business perspective, this is taking a risk...But its a risk that seems to be paying off as the audience response with their E3 presentation has been positive...Better than both Sony AND Microsofts nonsense).

Microsoft is making Nintendo look like their friends against Sony. But they're really not. This is a three ring circus and MS is just using the same tactics they've always been using.

I think Nintendo is smart to stay out of this nonsense, and focusing on providing a balanced solution...Fun, different, and affordable. That's what the consumer wants.
[Posted by: 2312 | Date: 05/14/06 01:50:22 AM]
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sum1 should tell da dumb microsoft vice president dat a PS3 is worth more than hundreds of X360 and Wii put together.
[Posted by: Prince | Date: 05/17/06 01:35:28 AM]

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