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Two Cores at a Low Cost: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+ CPU Review

Started by: coldpower27 | Date 08/11/06 11:01:02 PM
Comments: 55 | Last Comment:  03/24/08 06:15:10 AM

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Good to see that the change of 1/2 the LV2 cache makes very little difference.

I can't wait for Intel's response the E4300. As well it also remains when and if the 3600+ will come to retail channels in North America.
[Posted by: coldpower27  | Date: 08/11/06 11:01:02 PM]
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Comparing a stock Intel vs a OC-ed AMD sounds fair to you?
Both CPU's are priced exactly the same..
You think the AM2's can keep up when the C2D's when they are both granted a similar OC?
Even if the AM2's could keep up, the C2D's have a far better PPW and less TDP.
And that is apart from the fact that the C2D's OC far better then the AM2's, and you know that!
So tell me.. are you stupid or do you think we are?

[Posted by: A8N-SLI, AMD X2 4600+, 2048-3200C2, 2x EN-6600GT, 2x 120Gb WD 8M  | Date: 08/12/06 04:41:06 AM]
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The competition for the X2-3800+ (and it appears the X2-3600+) is not the Pentium D 915, but rather the Pentium D 940 (and perhaps the 945).
[Posted by: Xart  | Date: 08/12/06 06:07:44 AM]
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The $150 you paid for the X2 3600+ is actually the true price.

http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=647389&starttim e=0&endtime=0

The price is supposed to be $148, which means that the X2 3800+ really isn't that competitive against the X2 3800+ priced at $159. I'm sure most people are going to choose the X2 3800+ over it. The 65W TDP may be a saving grace though. The 915D is supposed to be priced at $133 so it still has a price advantage. The 945D is priced at $163 which is slightly more expensive than the X2 3800+, but it's also on average slightly faster according to X-bit labs previous price/performance comparison. The 915D will be replaced by the 925D on October 1st.

I was hoping to see some power consumption numbers though. I don't suppose you happen to have any of the new D0 stepping chips for Presler since they have a 95W TDP all the way up to the 960D. That should help bring down the 915Ds power from the current C1 steppings. I always found it curious that most of the 930D, 940D, and 950D reviews dealing with power are still using B1 steppings which don't have EIST instead of the newer C1 and D0 steppings.
[Posted by: Wilfred  | Date: 08/12/06 10:17:33 AM]
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The most drudgery part of using a PC is booting it up and launching programs. It is nice to have X2 chips. I will start with SATA-II harddrive above all. It reduce the boot time by 66% over the old ATA-100 EIDE hard drives. I like to sit and turn on my PC and watch it all along. I am tired of turning on PC and go around do something else while waiting for it to be ready to be used. SATA-II is really fast in launching programs and scanning for viruses and spywares. My mother board can be fitted with x2 chips later, thank goodness!! It will be a lotta faster . oh my my
[Posted by: gumbo  | Date: 08/12/06 12:02:26 PM]
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6. 
clock the e6300 screw price
[Posted by: xdregox  | Date: 08/12/06 10:34:36 PM]

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The comparisons are not fair and comparing oranges to apples. You compare an overclocked AMD3600 to all others at the stock speed ... not fair and stupid !!!

You never mentioned that fact that an overclocked Core 2 E6300 is far better anything AMD has to offer and E6300 is the lowest end of the Core 2 family. So AMD is the loser in all cases !!!
[Posted by: LuckHo  | Date: 08/13/06 10:40:29 AM]
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just don't overclock the 6300 in this little test, because that would put a flaw in your arguement.
[Posted by: steve  | Date: 08/13/06 12:21:20 PM]

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I dont see in any bech a Core 2 duo E6300 overclocked...
Overclocked processor VS Normal Processor.....
no comment
[Posted by: Overclocked  | Date: 08/14/06 02:07:18 AM]

10. 
Nice article. Too bad there are so many people that can't read without bursting into flames. It would be nice to include some ppw charts. To make some people happy, maybe you should include OC numbers for the Conroe system that you weren't comparing AMD systems to.

I find it amazing that their performance is still so good considering that Intel uses chips with 2-4MB of cache. I guess we'll be hearing about AMD slowly fazing out even the 512KB caches to save even more die space and making their costs even lower.
[Posted by: NA  | Date: 08/14/06 08:12:24 AM]

11. 
Article o'k and greit CPU
[Posted by: piruet1974  | Date: 08/14/06 09:21:59 AM]

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BRAVO! for this article...
Have a good day!
Best regards
Marc
[Posted by: mlou1  | Date: 08/15/06 12:33:04 PM]

13. 
shit
[Posted by: phobos  | Date: 08/16/06 03:15:10 AM]

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The limit @ 1.25? give me a break.

dan
[Posted by: He-man  | Date: 08/18/06 09:12:11 AM]

15. 
good stuff again
[Posted by: G mo  | Date: 08/19/06 02:55:13 PM]

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cool CPU
[Posted by: m2marek  | Date: 08/21/06 04:07:55 AM]

17. 
wow
[Posted by: Gavric  | Date: 08/24/06 03:22:12 AM]

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i will appreciate if u can at the end of the review show some graphical analysis... Somethng like % performance decrement/increment between X2 3800+ and X2 3600+.. and add some multitasking test... atleast 4 different combinations with average of 3 - 4 program in each multitasking test.
[Posted by: xcom_cheetah  | Date: 09/01/06 04:04:27 AM]

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wonderful!!
[Posted by: eye-man  | Date: 09/03/06 11:29:13 AM]

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What about comparing it to an overclocked 3800+? Do the same figures come out for that chip? The ones (3800+) I've seen for sale are all 89W jobs. Is this because of where I am looking? Do I need to look farther afield for a 65W 3800+?
[Posted by: Jimbob  | Date: 09/06/06 07:31:05 AM]

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