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Quad-Core from AMD: Quad FX Platform Review

Started by: Chicken | Date 11/29/06 10:22:11 PM
Comments: 71 | Last Comment:  01/02/08 11:21:59 AM

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Very good review from what Ive seen I think AMD has rushed this processor idea in responce to INTEL`s
[Posted by: skuds  | Date: 11/30/06 01:34:21 PM]
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Sad thing is that except for games, you could probably blow the doors off of this overpriced furnace by swapping some quadcore xeon's into a mac pro... =X
[Posted by: dev0lution  | Date: 11/30/06 02:41:26 PM]

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I was afraid of this. AMD just slapped something together to compete with the new Intel chips. AMD will go down fighting tho I am a hardcore AMD fan and will always be. I think AMD will suprise us soon to turn around the chip wars once more. Go AMD!!
[Posted by: BugMasher  | Date: 11/30/06 10:56:11 PM]
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Very good, very explicit, very unbiased and impartial article.
[Posted by: JOSEPH MATEUS  | Date: 12/01/06 01:38:49 AM]

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"The third test is probably the most sophisticated. Our test platforms were busy working on three tasks at a time: image editing in Adobe Photoshop, final rendering in 3ds max and video encoding into MPEG4 format. Here Quad FX platform performed not so well falling behind Intel’s dual-core CPUs. Moreover, as we see, the dependence of Quad FX performance on the CPU frequency is quite small, so I would assume that there is something limiting this performance dramatically. But of course, it is high latency of the memory subsystem, which we have already complained about several times."
I though in your multimedia multi-tasking test, the Intel's Core just pose its SSE engine power (it ís definitely more powerful than AMD SSE engine since Intel NetBurst) so your conclusion about memory subsystem limit is not totally right. The multitasking test with Quake and WinRAR has showed this.
Abcslayer.
[Posted by: abcslayer  | Date: 12/01/06 01:43:58 AM]
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This Quad FX technology sounds very interesting for a low-end server.

XP doesn't have a NUMA aware scheduler, but Linux does. And the review shows that when actually running four applications the Quad FX system is faster.

All this review shows, is that running a single task on a multi-CPU system, where RAM has been divided between CPUs, that memory access is slow. I didn't need this review to tell me that was going to suck.

But running Linux, and the RAM set non-interleaved, with a highly threaded workload, it is going to be really fast. Even in non-NUMA mode on XP, you can see Quad FX pull ahread. The Intel quad-core CPU is totally limited by the FSB.

Too bad this board didn't support buffered DDR2 and ECC, as it would be an awesome cheap server.
[Posted by: Tom  | Date: 12/01/06 11:51:20 PM]
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At TechReport you'll get an Idea how the opponents fare when NUMA is in use and works. Suddenly FX-74 is FASTER (scaling nearly linear) than FX-62 in single threaded apps - just the way it should be and we are used to in AMD servers for a long time. They used XP64 which utilizes a newer (NUMA-aware) W2k3 kernel and being 64bit it also better fits current and future workloads. Well, have a look yourselves =8)
[Posted by: edgar_wibeau  | Date: 12/02/06 05:00:31 PM]

28. 
Intel Sucks
AMD Sucks
[Posted by: They Both Suck  | Date: 12/04/06 04:13:27 PM]
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A its a pity that AMD is not designing processors as it used to. Well all we can do now is wait for AMD to pull something out of the box.
[Posted by: XennoX  | Date: 12/06/06 03:33:39 AM]

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Its a pity AMD isn't designing processors like it used to. Well we will just have to wait and see what AMD makes of it, and hope they come up with something good
[Posted by: XennoX  | Date: 12/06/06 03:34:59 AM]

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Wow maybe u missed it but AMD is dead in the water! 4x4 is slower, hotter, uses 30% more electricity ands not even here yet! Mean while the QX6600 is out next month - lol! Misery loves company and AMD had its moment. No amount magazine and Internet bios will save the poor products made by AMD! By the way the QX6600 will run at over 3 ghz thats 2x amd 62's - with p4 cooling techniques.

My New Years prediction:

The new indicator is dell - when dell switches then you know its time to sell your AMD stock! 5 years from now when dell switches back you know to sell your intel stock? M Dell is the B Gates of Hardware - I predict he will quit and volunteer work like B.G!

Like Zepplain - time to "Ramble On"

You AMD guys never stop do ya! Pentium 4 garbage? First, AMD got lucky for 1 year or so. Let me explain, the deep pipe line of the Pentium chip was designed for 10 ghz - the reason it did not work was unforeseen leakage. That is, at a certain point a electrons pass through the insulating part of the chip. Now, Intel realized this in 2003 and designed the core system a shorter pipe line like AMD. If this unforeseen leakage had not happened AMD's new chips would still be like sempron - slow slow doggie! Sure P4's get hot but sill at 4.25ghz a 3.6ghz chip games pretty good. In fact i just shipped a 3.2 E6700 based system will kick any AMD system out there but i am typing on my 2003 p4 3ghz shuttle running 3.5ghz yes over 3 years old. guess what no lag, music is playing, spysweeper is sweeping, my avg is doing its free thing - try that on any AMD chip made in 2003!

Now that the X6800 i have here is running over 4 ghz - no amd can match that! My QX6700 is waiting for its 680i chipset board to arrive (asus striker) by the way do not use any 5 series nvidia chipsets they run so hot - total garbage. Well, my new direct x system with qx6700 will be 2 years a head of AMD's dreams!

O ya, back to my P4 3.0c its still runs most games (yes - not oblivion) but most, fine, while i listen to music!

Well - just remember how many light bulbs Edison made before he stumbled on to carbon then tungsten - the P4 is a stepping stone.

( 800 series +900 series)/ p4 = qx core series (or AMD's last rights!)
[Posted by: DragonSprayer  | Date: 12/20/06 03:37:53 PM]
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Very Helpful, clear and relatively easy to understand and seem to cover most relevant points.
[Posted by: hquillin  | Date: 12/25/06 12:09:42 PM]

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have y'all seen that intel is like a muscle car, faster in straight roads but weak in corners, were amd cathes up.
[Posted by: Time-Out  | Date: 01/04/07 05:53:39 AM]

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You want to put your money on a company put as much as you can in to IBM soon as they get there 500Ghz chip goin AMD and Pentium no more. The core race is dead. only thing that increases speed is bandwidth and how fast your CPU. core's just increase multitasking
[Posted by: Snelly89  | Date: 01/11/07 08:11:05 AM]

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Has this been released yet coz my birthday is 1 march and i realy want a pair . And will pentium finaly be f**** again lol i hate them
[Posted by: Wessel  | Date: 01/24/07 02:54:04 AM]

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Where can i buy QUAD CORE AMD PROCESSORS on 1 Processor not 2.
[Posted by: poopypants  | Date: 03/21/07 10:39:04 PM]

37. 
Makes my mouth water. Lol. .
[Posted by: -ecK  | Date: 04/05/07 12:03:36 PM]

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The manual of the ASUS motherboard says that the three active fans should be used ONLY if the cpu is cooled with watercooler or passive cooler. In other words if the cpu has its own cooler, the motherboard fans shouldn't be used
[Posted by: Ghillo  | Date: 04/14/07 10:24:21 AM]

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My tests with QuadFX and Solaris show near linear performance scaling using 1,2 and 4 cores for parallel compiles and other theaded applications. It's not fair to review a platform using an OS that's not up to the job of exploiting it.

As for the heat, at least I dont have to use my dryer any more :)
[Posted by: Ian  | Date: 05/03/07 12:36:53 AM]

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thank you for your review i found it most readable i just didn't loose interest...for me it was very important for you to mention the am2 heat solutions.
[Posted by: andrushkjan  | Date: 08/26/07 06:51:13 AM]

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