X-bit labs

Started by: dm | Date 04/03/07

Comments: 23 | Last Comment:  01/13/08

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1. Looks like I have better luck ocing my Conroe-L wayback february. Great article.

http://fanboyreview.blogspot.com/2007/02/brag-conroe-l-has-arrived.html

2. Would have liked to see a comparison to Semprons and single core Athanon 64's.

The reason why Intel made the Celeron was to compete with the "high end" AMD platforms/chips and give them a fair fight even though Celeron still beat the crap out of them in benchmarks. So theres obviously no comparison between kraptonite and these chips.

3. Come on, that CPU is better than you have stated.
Its a $60 part and even at 3 GHz it shouldnt consume too much power and dissipate too much heat apart from performing excellently.
These processors will turn the low end upside down.

4. Good preview

Was the E4300 overclocked too, or at standard speed?

standard

5. You need to really overclock the Celeron D 356 to 5.0Ghz to be able to make a comment on whether or not the Celeron 4xx is indeed faster in everything. You should have also put the Athlon64 in the mix. Also, where are the power consumption figures? I love the article, but it is lacking compared to the usual quality I expect out of xbitlabs.

6. Will Conroe-L be compatible with intel 915 and 925 based motherboards with a bios update?

If so, I know a few old systems that may stick around another year or two.

No. at least not an old 915/925 mobo. It still needs to support the newer VRM. Theoretically a company could produce a 915/925 mobo for these using the new VRM, but I'm pretty positive Intel axed the 915/925 chipsets early last year, meaning such a scenario will likely never play out.

7. Comparing Celeron to dual-core in multithreaded applications ins't fair ! How many real world applications people use everyday are multithreaded? Minimum. This way it looks Celeron is a bad product but in real world it's performance would be much better because the core is except the L2 cache size the same as on Core 2 Duo. For that price, it is an excelent product.

Quite the contrary, form the article I got the sense that it is a fairly good processor. I was expecting it to do a lot worse, but it turns out that 512kb of L2 chache is more than enough for most of today's average people's needs.
I also like the 35 W alot. This processor will save corporations and people a shit lot om foney on the electricity. Just consider 35 W vs. 60 W running 24/7 for a month. 35*24*30/(1000)*0.1=2.52$; 60*24*30/(1000)*0.1=4.32$

If you run your computer for a year(12month), you will save $30.24 vs.$51.84. That's $21.6 difference. If a company has 100 computers, thay will save 21.6*100=$2160. Might not seem like a lot, but that is also reducing greenhouse emissions: 35*3600*24*365 = 1103760000Jouls vs 1892160000 Jouls. Huje fucking difference!

8. If it isn't too much of a hassle, can we have some power consumption figures for these processors? The relatively tight TDP of 35W makes me wonder if they could fit in a passively cooled system. What would you say?

9. Information good and clear to understand. It´s missing just Super PI test, but it´s ok.

10. what about celeron L vs. sempron. ?

11. Why don't see how high they can overclock a Celeron D 360, and then compare that to the Conroe-L Celeron running at stock and overclocked speed?

Also, what do they see as compatibility problems with the Conroe-L celeron and current motherboards?

I meant the 365, not the 360.

12. "The thing is that by raising the Vcore to 1.6V we only managed to increase the FSB frequency of our Conroe-L based processor up to 300MHz."

CPU-Z shows 1,31V.. what is true?

13. You guys are dillusional. In page 4 it looks like the E4300 is a stock, given that it wasn't specified otherwise, and that it loses in in that winrar compression test.

Now get this. The Conroe-L processor at 3.0 ghz loses to the E4300 at 1.8ghz by like 15+% in UT2004, a singlethreaded game.

The difference between the processors in this case. 2 MB of l2 available for the E4300 vs 512 KB available to to the Conroe L.

If this doesn't clearly show that Conroe is hopeless without a large cache, then i don't know what does. All the "architectural advancements" are only capable of boosting multimedia apps. Stick it agains and A64 with the same amount of cache, and it gets trashed in games. So much for "Superior Architecture"

Please look up additional benchmarks of the Celeron to see how it fairs against AMD's K8. HKEPC has a good article, and anandtech has a little news clip with benchmarks. The 2.0GHz Celeron is quite comparable to the 2.2GHz Athlon 3500. So much for your theory.

14. Using an A-bit Fatal1ty motherboard and a BFG 650 Watt PSU, I was able to overclock a celeron 440 to 3.75GHz

15. i have conroe motherboard cpu 3.2ghz prescot and when i overclock cpu to 233fsb my memory ram works at 388fsb the motherboard only suports DDR2 533/667. i have ddr 667 1 gigabytes memory can this overclock damage my menory ram.
system overclocket- conroe 945gc 3.74ghz.can somebody explane to me please.

16. How about the 420 (1.6) and 430 (1.8)? Are they have the same benchmark?

17. very good...... keep it up

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