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The Return of the Ultra: Nvidia Readies High-End Update.

Started by: LoLo | Date 04/30/07 06:30:54 PM
Comments: 24 | Last Comment:  12/31/07 07:35:29 PM

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Nice!
[Posted by: LoLo | Date: 04/30/07 06:30:54 PM]
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$1000 dolar crap... 7800GTX 512mb all over again.
[Posted by: Panzer_V | Date: 04/30/07 07:45:48 PM]

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Yep this card screams "not worth the price" loud and clear. Everyone is going to see this as another 7800 512 again. Thanks for the early update :) on performance, but I could tell this was coming.

Even for those of us who could afford it, it's still a dumb way to spend the money. I'm sure someone will buy one somewhere, but not me.
[Posted by: FXi | Date: 05/01/07 04:23:48 AM]

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I really dont understand why nVIDIA is releasing the 8800 Ultra given the fact that the 8800 GTX is already 30-50% faster than the R600 Radeon HD 2900 XT..NVIDIA has the performance crown already with the 8800GTX so releasing another GPU in the form of an "ULTRA" version is not needed..specially when the performance improvemnet from such an "ULTRA" is so small over previous GTX..
The price tag of the 8800 Ultra is just insane..NO sane person is gonna pay 999USD for an "Ultra" when it offers only 3-10% improvement over previous high end offering....for 999USD you can almost get two 8800 GTXs that will give you TWICE the performance of an 8800 Ultra..so do a simple math..I think nVIDIA needs to release an 80nm G80 based high-end chip in the form of the 8900 series in order to make some good performance,low power consumption and best price/performance ratio and performance per wat and performance per squre milimiter
[Posted by: Erik Larsson | Date: 05/01/07 04:28:12 AM]
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Sources???
[Posted by: boner | Date: 05/01/07 05:47:49 AM]

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You're totlay wrong about the XT vs GTS and XTX vs GTX thing..First of all there's not much of a peformance improvement from going from XT to XTX version in the HD 2900 series..the performance diffrence is meaningless between those two ATI high-end cards..XT will be clocked at 750MHz core while the XTX will be at 800MHz core making the peformance improvement ~7% over the XT version which is'nt enough to fight 8800GTX given that the 8800GTX is already about 30-50% faster in shader intensive titles..ATI has lost any chanse of stealing the performance crown back from NVIDIA in this generation of GPUs-at least with the R600..The ATI R600 GPU was in full development since late 2004 and it was meant to be ATI's first Unified DX10 GPU..Since ATI saw back in last November that their R600 GPU will NOT be able to compete with the 8800 GTX's performance they change their mind and said "No R600 XT was meant to compete with the 8800 GTS 640MB"....ATI just couldn't admit that it lost the battle since the HD 2900 XT was the REAL XTX..but simply couldn't compete with NVIDIA's superiour architecture...NOT only that ATI is late to the party but it also having a slower performing product..SHAME ON THEM..and please dont blame AMD in ATI's flaws since the merger was taken palce AFTER the R600 was done and ready..NVIDIA G80 is a simply superiour architecture to R600..G80 is better almost in every fashion...G80 has 100% efficient scalar design Vs R600's Vector and fake scalar design..G80 has a better implemintation of the unified shader architecture than R600..G80 has REAL stream processors and stream processing architecture unlike ATI's fake design. and it seems that 512-bit bus does NOT help the R600 at all when the buttleneck is shader and texturing performance.....NVIDIA owns ATi big time....VERY GOOD NVIDIA..WELL DONE ,CONTINURE SCREWING ATI TO DEATH..
[Posted by: Erik Larsson | Date: 05/01/07 09:51:25 AM]

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ATOM KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Csak igy tovább!!!
NVIDIA FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Posted by: SoldierSDR | Date: 05/01/07 01:06:25 PM]

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Anyone who would pay $999 for a card rthat wouls only give you maybe 10% more in performace would be a fool. You can hit that mark by overclocking your 8800GTX.I have both ofmine running stable at 650 core 1000 memory.Its time for people to wake up,as longas we give them our cash,they will just keep raising their prices.
[Posted by: doctor_death | Date: 05/01/07 03:42:52 PM]

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I agree to doctor death Nvidia will suck all your money and 3 month later on they come out the new one that have similiar performance or mybe abit high wih low price ....hope ATI will bring some decent card that can give some pressure to reduce the price.
[Posted by: Gunter | Date: 05/01/07 05:12:38 PM]

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Too much money, not worth it.
[Posted by: kiev | Date: 05/01/07 07:50:52 PM]

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DEAR ANTON...My cusin is an NVIDIA engineer (and I'll be too in 3 months) and he provided me with the data regarding the 8950GX2 and 8800 Ultra..since then final specs & pricing have CHANGED due to yield issues!!
Even at NVIDIA you can never know the product specs until very late development stages..they are trying work on low profile.
NVIDIA is now working at full speed to release additional members in the GeForce 8 family of products..It is not up to me..I'm just sharing what I'm given..sorry..info has to be updated from time to time...AS for the HD 2900 XT performance it was ATI who admited that it wont be able to compete with the 8800 GTX..and have peformance on par with the 8800 GTS..Look at Fudzilla.com for that scoop!! also the benches at DailyTech an others seem to prove it !!! 8800 GTX is from 30-50% faster then HD 2900 XT-period!! and even the 2900 XTX wont save the day for AMD/ATI..Get Updated..sorry..and one last thing .Why do you think ATI is releasing the 2900 XT at 399 USD!? because it is on the looser side..and yes I'm an nVIDIA fan..Because My family has stocks at nVIDIA..and I have family members working in NVIDIA as engineers and I'm going to be an NVIDIA engineer aswell in 3 months from now..good day..
[Posted by: Erik Larsson | Date: 05/02/07 09:15:42 AM]

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dude the 2900xt beats the 8800gtx in some games(x3reunion) and beats the 8800gts(640mg) in more than half the tests. Its just louder that the 8800 and uses more power. But hey, remember the time of the 9700. They were the best, give ati a chance
[Posted by: timer | Date: 06/10/07 05:46:37 AM]

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This is rediculus. All the benchmark tests are out now and prove very much so that the HD 2900XT honestly and sadly dont compare to the 8800GTX however... If you send an email out to ati and ask why... They will send you an email stating "We have used our best technology and skill into the HD 2900XT and were very happy with the outcome though we didnt compare to the upper 8800 Series. We are very happy with our product." It's only the benchmarks telling us the hd 2900XT isn't as good as the upper 8800 series... doesn't make it a bad card, it just wasn't built to compete with Nvidia's newer G80 series cards. It was built to kick ass, and play games and etc. Furthermore get business off it.. (money) By making the price as low as they did when it came out they stole lots of business away from the Nvidia fans. including me :) and we all got something great and fast. Most of us already know we didnt get it because we thought it was faster. We know it's not. Its a great card indeed. And if anyone on here knows what their talking about then you will understand that there will ALWAYS be something the ATI will be better at then Nvidia, and something that Nvidia will always be better at than Ati.... Thats what makes the 2 company's great! Its all about choice, Brand, and your Style, I like to think of it like this. Are you on the Dark Side (Ati) of the Path of the Good Side (Nvidia). Both are very powerfull sides, but you have to choose. And in a few months... maybe even a year if we are lucky then next best cards will be out and you will look back at this and think, shit I cannot believe I actually argued over this old crap. Haha. Time to upgrade!
[Posted by: Chris | Date: 07/17/07 08:53:10 AM]

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I think nvidia wont stop creating graphic cards .
[Posted by: Gamer cheetah | Date: 12/31/07 07:35:29 PM]

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