X-bit labs

Started by: Jorge | Date 07/26/07

Comments: 18 | Last Comment:  04/21/08

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1. AMD shocked a lot of doomsdayers with their technology presentation today.

Despite the obvious pessimism in the above story, you can bet AMD will deliver just as they did with Athlon. If you review history you'll see all the ANALysts and Intel fanboys said AMD could not deliver and then they kicked Intel's butt for six continuous years. Barcelona, Phenom and all the stuff AMD didn't talk about today is gonna punish Intel like they've never been punished before.

That punishment doesn't include the charges the EU files against Intel today either.

The Times, they are a changin'.

2. Whats the EU? if it has anything to do with a place outside the Americas, intel dont care (and neither do we.)
Currently:
VIA>Intel>AMD

untill proven otherwises

3. Umm, why only 5.9 performance index? WTF??? Shouldn't it be 9+??? What the crap is Vista's limit anyways?

Well, if a dual Operton setup can't make a 10 experience index out of the OS, then Microsoft needs to lay of the drugs...

5.9 is the highest score you can get

Microsoft will increase the max score of the index once the hardware advances enough. I suspect this will be soon after AMD and intel release their next set of CPUs.

4. Never seen such a small LN2 cooler! KUDOS AMD!

5. boohoo!! its one of those rigged demos!! until AMD releases those chips to tech reviewers worldwide and those chips get benchmarked... that is the only time i'll believe that AMD has a new product to compete with the core duos!

6. AMD was having a hard time reaching a much higher frequencies (above 2.6GHz) for their Barcelona procies, whreas this Phenom procies were based on Barcelona core... so how can we be so sure that this 3.0GHz demo was a really Phenom core?

My guess is that this demo was just an Athlon X2 6000+ processor which also runs at 3.0GHz...

Hmmmmm... anybody?

booyah ,x2=2core duh

7. What this tells is that AMD will be able to meet Intel Clock-for-Clock if they could do this with just an engineering sample chip at 65nm. I imagine what the 45nm and 32nm chips will be capable of. It also explan the fact that they have suddenly discovered another technology maybe much more superior to their known SOI. I wonder if they have carried out the initially explained Germanium Chips. This is the end all doubts and all discussions. Now I expect more than ever before that Intel must be ready for the fathers of all chip battles.

This 3ghz proves nothing. Why did they not let any numbers from the demo out? Why did they not tell the system specs? The demo setup specs? No CPUZ? All sounds fishy to me. If you have the goods and need good PR, you show the potential and maybe people will wait for your product instead of jumping on the Intel Quad Core train. I am (was) an AMD fan that is fed up with the lies and deception!

8. smoke smoke smoke ;)

9. Well, not showing enough proof other than AMD rep's word of the mouth about what is actually under the hood only works towards raising suspicion. Also this can be one of the few good chips hitting 3GHz they been getting off a whole wafer, who knows.

But I guess time will tell if they can finally deliver against C2D or not the problem is they are damn late like the way the baby they recently adopted from Canada been acting for a good while. :D

Enough PR Slides get the chips out the door already.**Slaps AMD reps** :D

10. Waiting for it.... Rock on AMD..

11. Double Data Rate (DDR). HyperTransport Terminal (HTT), Silicon on Insulator (SOI),and Integrated memory controllers. These are the buzz words of AMD technology, and from what I am reading here alot of you don't understand how these work. Take a CPU multiplier X the HTT and thats the speed in MHz. These precessors DO NOT need to run at 3Ghz+ to match intel chips. They rely on higher packet loads per clock cycle.By reducing subroutines to memory outside the CPU, maintaining as high as possible cycles on all internal and external terminals, and using bi-directional high speed serial bus architecture AMD offers a powerfull, logical, and VERY scalable architecture that does not need to run at 3000+MHz to deliver the same throughput. Infact, the HTT alone is capable of 32 and even 64 bit bi-directional operation at speeds far above 1000MHz! The RAM is the limiting reactant at this time. AMD needs time;they know what they are doing but all of you need to learn what they have done, and that the architecture is optimal it just needs time to be developed. BE PATIENT!!!

AMD Loyalist to the end

12. amd is the fastest cpu compare intel i am a hardware engineer i have been perchased morethen 40-70 computers all are amd's

13. wank! my casio calculator piss's on that. Im running a commodore amiga WITH the 1 meg upgrade.

14. I'd say that no matter what AMD tries to do, they really can't do much more than Intel because of financial problems, they were ahead before, but if they still were, they'd have an 8 core out, but AMD doesn't have the financial resources now to start another project for processor tech, or they'd have 4 billion transistors in 55nm out by now (or less). AMD has the possibility of making chips above 3GHz, but the only good thing they have in advantage from Intel is the FSB, which currently tops 2000MHz, that's a real good speed for running graphics applications, it speeds up performance some to match intel. example is my own benchmark: Running Crysis 1154x900 with a Radeon 3870 X2 and a 9800GTX, with an AMD Phenom 9850 and Core 2 Quad Q6600. The intel system gets about 24fps on max settings, 45 on mid, and the AMD system gets a trailing 23.4fps on max, with 47.8 on mid (these are averages between the 3870 and 9800). I'd say AMD has the potential, but is still lagging right now, juat wait maybe 3 years or so, when Nehalem is out, then there'll be some competition, I hope...

I use AMD and Intel, they're both good, but intel kicks butt with their power consumption, but that's about it...

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