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AMD Promises 2.5GHz Quad-Core Microprocessors in December.

Started by: dudde | Date 09/12/07 08:35:52 AM
Comments: 23 | Last Comment:  10/12/07 05:04:28 AM

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quote: AMD promises...


I'll take that with a grain of salt...


quote: But 25% speed increase will bring only up to 15% performance improvement, said Mr. Allen.

Still not enough... as usual
[Posted by: dudde | Date: 09/12/07 08:35:52 AM]

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Even if AMD's new processor has slightly lower performance than Intel's, I will still buy it because AMD motherboards are much more upgradable than Intel motherboards. For example, with socket A, you could upgrade the processor and be able to put one in that would be several times faster than the processors that were originally available for it at launch. I've never seen that with an Intel CPU/Motherboard.

The other reasons I like to stick with AMD is that they're processors are generally quieter. The biggest reason for me though is that AMD isn't a monopoly and doesn't behave like one. As a customer of theirs, they have treated me well.
[Posted by: tech | Date: 09/12/07 10:56:27 AM]
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I am merely pointing out an example that most people will remember. I have build many computers and I have many years of experience in the field as a computer technician.

Not too long ago, I bought an Intel socket 775 Gigabyte GA8N-SLI-Royal motherboard, which costs me around $200 USD.

I have a Pentium 4 Prescott installed in that motherboard. Tell me, what are my upgrade options for the GA8N-SLI-Royal? Can I upgrade to the Core 2 Duo?

Look into it and you will learn how limited upgrade options usually are on Intel systems.

My brother bought an 800 MHz socket A Athlon processor. Using the same motherboard, he upgrade to the Athlon 2600+.

That is a more than three-fold improvement in performance.

Please give me even one example in the 21st century where that happened with a stock Intel-based motherboard?
[Posted by: tech | Date: 09/12/07 12:00:39 PM]
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Dual Quad core chips for a total of 8 cores SOUNDS awesome, if it ever comes out at an affordable price. If AMD waits too long it's not hard to imagine a single high clocked Intel Quad Core out performing AMD's quad core offering. After all Intel already has their quad core chips running close to 4GHz in their labs, they just don't feel the competitive pressure to release it, and why would they? I'm sure they are quite happy with the margins they are getting on their current chips.

That said I sure wouldn't want to be any of the overworked engineers that have to make this project happen on the AMD side ^_^. I like AMD and having competition is good. I mostly have AMD systems myself but I've been building Intel for others lately. AMD needs to step it up if they want to stay in business both in their CPU and GPU business.
[Posted by: Megamanx00 | Date: 09/12/07 01:39:28 PM]

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Answer the question.

Can you provide me with one example of an Intel-based motherboard (released during the 21st century) that provided the opportunity for users to upgrade to a stock processor that was over three times faster than the processor that was originally released for it?

(If you try to dodge this question, like you did last time, I will be the first to notice).

So, please just answer the question this time.
[Posted by: tech | Date: 09/12/07 09:59:27 PM]
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You've made an eror,
Phenom will have "2MB of L2 cache (1MB per core)" the math is wrong, 1MB/core * 4 cores => 4MB L2. Will the processor have 2MB L2 with 512KB/core or 4MB L2 with 1MB/core
[Posted by: Mataoanu | Date: 09/13/07 08:25:57 AM]
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Cool, now all I have to do is go back to Q1 '07 and buy my FX-90 using the time machine AMD built when the were supposed to be working on Phenom.
[Posted by: PB | Date: 09/13/07 02:28:32 PM]

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Intel 975X

Supports:

Core 2 Quad
Core 2 Duo
Pentium Dual Core
Pentium D(Extreme)
Pentium D
Pentium 4(Extreme)
Pentium 4

And most likely can support Celeron D and L chips.

Sorry to burst your ego bubles, but MANY intel and nivida chips support several cpu types.
AMD fanboys, go do more reseach.

There is only one AMD board I can find that supports more then 3 types of CPU's (making a total of four)
MACH SPEED MSNV-939 939 NVIDIA nForce4


So, sorry.

Intel wins.
[Posted by: Joz | Date: 09/14/07 01:42:35 PM]
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The K10 or K9L chip does not need a speed increase because the four processors can be loaded equally by the OS. For me and many users, do not need a processor faster than 2 GHz. Unfortunately, Windows users do not get the ability like Linux users, so a faster processor is then needed. A faster processor is best at encoding video, sound, graphics, programming, and intense game playing.

What is needed are larger L3 cache to handle heavier loads and the ability to turn off areas of cache for better power management.
[Posted by: linuxnerd | Date: 09/14/07 05:46:23 PM]

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Amd processors' L1,L2 and L3 caches is too .........it should has at least 8mb per core(L2 cache), 12mb(L3 cache)

Besides that, amd can't demonstrate a 30nm
processor.

Futhermore, amd processor always consume more electricity.

Hyper transport speed is too lower le
i hope it will improve at phenom fx 80.......
[Posted by: Edward Ng | Date: 10/12/07 05:04:28 AM]

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