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Started by: Being a Fanboy just sucks! | Date 11/29/07

Comments: 13 | Last Comment:  03/27/08

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1. Yury , this is a very well written article !

anyway, in page 3
" The step is 10 cycles high. The frequency multiplier of this CPU is 10, too. "

I suppose this is about 11 cycles? The multiplier of 2200MHz dual core is 11x IIRC.

2. Intel can afford to cut more prices since their chips will be cheaper to manufacture at 45nm...

AMD can just settle for the low-end segment and other scraps and crumbs from Intel...

What chips? the all entire line is made of 65nm processors.

The very rare/few ones manufactured at 45nm cost $$$$$$$$$

the KEYWORD idiiot is WILL BE....


read some news... the 45nm penryns WILL be coming this january!

besides AMD's 65nm sucks like hell... Intel's 65nm is already mature... and they still kick AMD's butt

AMD can just have the low-end (low margin) segment of the market!

3. What is this IF in the last paragraph. There are numerous benchmarks out there comparing the 9900 to the Q6700, and the Q6700 wins. In fact, in a majority the Q6600, which retails at about $280, beats the 9900.

In addition, that will become moot because in January Intel will release the Penryns, and the Q9450 which is supposed to retail at $316 throttles the 9900 in benchmarks.

4. 1st quarter of 2008 will surely be the time that AMD will get more than a slap in the face for their pathetic product and pricing!

5. You got that right James.

The Phenom 9900..... Oooooo big freaking deal.... Before we even see it, here comes Intels' STAR DESTROYER Q9450!!!
It is cheaper then a 9900, and easily overclocks 3-4ghz on air, yet is probably way better even at stock speeds.

Gah, will we even still have AMD 1 year for now, or will they be bankrupt by then? =\

6. AMD are doing all the wrong stuff!!!
Who thought them marketing??

Sure they want more margins but right now they should be focusing on market share,especially when Intel is outperforming them in price-performance, and has the ability to under cut them without losing much(or anything for that matter)

Hector Ruiz is gonna run AMD to the ground

7. Wow, AMD doesnt want to sell processors anymore.

Highest price AMD can do is (Q6600 - $50) and this will never change.

8. AMD has some big customers that it treats well so that alone will help it survive. It also provides a better upgrade path as you don't need to buy a new motherboard every time they introduce a new processor. Intel's next high end CPU will not run on X38 motherboards which are barely even poping up in stores!!. The fact that they are making AM2+ and AM3 Processors backwards compatible with AM2 motherboards is one of the reasons I'm staying with AMD for now and ordering a socket AM2+ motherboard.

Still AMD needs to make better use of ATI, which will be too little too late if they wait any longer, in order to at least get some revenue from their graphics solutions until they stop bleeding money from their CPU buisness. Selling off and shutting down one of their Fabs while they still had high demand was a very stupid decision and they really can't afford to make any more of those.

The upgrade path is just cheap talk IMO.... Sure you can stick with the AM2+ board, but will you want to? The next processors will work on the old boards but who knows how many badly needed features you'll give up staying on the old board.

Generally when I want a new process I WANT a new mobo too, for all the new features that come out each year.
There is a serious risk that staying on a mobo from today, might badly bottleneck (or something to that sort) the processor of next year....

Don't buy into the upgrade hype AMD is pushing hard!

I will buy an AMD system right now if I have some money because Intel processors lack the grunt that I am used to when using an AMD system.

Higher FSB and higher clock for Intel processors is also cheap talk. Do not get me started about Hyperthreading and EM64T. Intel processors lacks real 64-bit computing for their desktops, notebook, and server processors.

9. are you on drugs too??? lack of 64-bit in Intel processors... that's the reason why they have EM64T.... they're inoperable with A64 extensions... beside 64-bit applications are still rare....

lack the grunt?!? have you read any of the benchmarks lately?!? its been almost more than a year that A64 and X2s are being kicked on the balls by CORE 2 chips

10. oh well...i hope AMD bounces back...i'd hate to see no competition for intel, that'd really suck...remember, intel was also kicked on the balls when the first A64's came out...i just hope there'd still be some real competition between AMD and intel...

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