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Started by: gamebro | Date 12/27/07
Comments: 17 | Last Comment:  01/03/08

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1. Yeah very doubtful they'd release lower end 9 series cards anytime soon.

I remember hearing that NV planed on releasing the 8800GTS 512mb (G92) x2 in feb, but that rumor went away as the 9800 rumor was spawned.

Very interesting article X-bit.... I think NV hasn't been sitting on their butts this whole time letting ATI play catch up, so no doubt whatever it is that NV has..... It will dominate, an it will be ready for a February launch.

I do think it'd be kinda lame to slap 2 G92 chips together and call them a 9800 anything though.... Hopefully it will be a real new GPU, that goes well beyond the capabilities of the G92.
[Posted by: gamebro | Date: 12/27/07]

2. The reason is very clear nitwits. AMD will have nothing to compete with it, therefore:
A) it will be based on the G80 core
B) performance will be in that neighborhood too.
[Posted by: Mr. BonBon | Date: 12/27/07]

3. I hope they get a out a card that will run Crysis with very high at 1920x1200 with 2XAA at 60fps.
[Posted by: gman | Date: 12/27/07]

4. I want a 64 shader (nvidia shaders, not ATI) 256bit, 256-512mb card at the ~$120 price point.

Can you say market dominance?
[Posted by: Joz | Date: 12/27/07]

5. Mr. BonBon...

Surely a genius like you would know that AMD\ATI does have something competitive for that time frame...
It is called the R680, and it will most likely be more powerful then 2 3870 cards in crossfire, and easily beat out a 8800 ultra.

I am pretty sure Nvidia will want to be launching something to better take on that card....
[Posted by: gamebro | Date: 12/27/07]
Well let me break it down for you. I am well aware of R680, and I assure you, it won't be much faster than two R670 put together, due to heat issues caused by dual-gpu cores. That thing will be LOUD and hot as me.

3850corssfire runs neck to neck against the 8800GTX, so AMD's final push, the R680, will be sitting somewhere north of 8800ultra (given AMD coders do a marvelous job in making the drivers work)

Nvidia's next gen chips should be at least 25-35% faster, again leaving AMD in the dust for months to come. The only way DAAMIT can fight back is through competitive pricing.

Think of AMD products as bald seals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJRNyPK-lc&feature=related
[Posted by: Mr. BonBon | Date: 12/27/07]
So you admit that the R680 will be more powerful then a 8800 ultra, yet you still believe that "AMD will have nothing to compete with", therefor (as you said) the new NV products will be based on the G80 core and have performance in that neighborhood...

lol? I think you are contradicting yourself here just a bit.
[Posted by: gamebro | Date: 12/27/07]
A CrossFire-on-PCB is far from my idea of "competitive". Remember CrossFire only works well with a handful of games, not all.
[Posted by: MiKeLezZ | Date: 12/28/07]
No nincompoop. Every new generation brings ~50% or more increase in performance. What I'm saying is nvidia's next generation cards won't do that, but even they will be enough to make sure AMD's little "performance crown parade" will be short lived.
[Posted by: Mr. BonBon | Date: 12/28/07]
Nincompoop now is it? Is that an upgrade from nitwit?? =)


Qoute from Mr.BonBon---
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2. The reason is very clear nitwits. AMD will have nothing to compete with it, therefore:
A) it will be based on the G80 core
B) performance will be in that neighborhood too. "


Nothing to compete with, though you admit the R680 is stronger then a 8800 ultra. From the quoted post you made it sound as though the NV 9's series would be barely better then the current 8800's, meaning this new R680 would indeed be very competitive by your own statements! Thus the reason it sounded very strange to me.

You should not have said "performance in that neighborhood" if you really believe it will be more like 25% better, because it throws nincompoops like me off balance.
"performance in that neighborhood" makes it sound as though they'll be equal, or barely better. =\
[Posted by: gamebro | Date: 12/28/07]
>Nincompoop now is it? Is that an upgrade from nitwit?? =)
I vote next for "bumpkin".
[Posted by: shae | Date: 12/28/07]
Sorry to confuse you lamebro. Next time, I'll word it better, but my prediction will hold true as it always has.
[Posted by: Mr. BonBon | Date: 12/28/07]
Can you quit with the name calling?

How can anyone take you seriously if you act like a child?
[Posted by: tumb_sc | Date: 12/29/07]
Forgive me dear chap, from this day hence forth, I shall be using formal British English with a dictionary at hand.
[Posted by: Mr. BonBon | Date: 12/29/07]

6. My guess is nvidia continues to refresh the mid-low end with G92, and releases something an all new chip, something that would basically be a 9800GTX for the high-end.

This gives them cheap, fast and profitable low-mid end parts, without cannibalizing demand for their high-end solution because it gets a monopoly on new features, i.e. DX 10.1.
[Posted by: guest | Date: 12/30/07]

7. If this new board can actually maintain an ABSOLUTE minimum of 30fps at native panel resoluations of 1680x1050, 1920x1200, and above, I will be impressed otherwise, it's crap.
If a graphics card can't drive resolutions of monitors that everyone has had for 4 years now, then why should I be impressed? I don't care about the competitive war between ATI and Nvidia, all I care about if being able to game at native panel resolutions without needing a 4000watt liquid nitrogen cooled power supply and 8 sli slots along with 2000$ worth of video cards in my system.
You can tape a stick to your pc and use it as a hair dryer in the morning, or better yet, put it under the covers at night to keep you are your loved one nice and toasty.
I want some freaking innovation!!! 1 card to rule them all, 1 card that never dips below 30fps EVER and is so cool and quite you can put your willy on it and not be burned.
[Posted by: My Little Pony | Date: 01/01/08]

8. But then, My Little Pony the cant make money from the other cars like XT, Pro, GS, 512Mb, 1Gb
its all about marketing ;)
[Posted by: Eddi | Date: 01/03/08]

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