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Contemporary Dual-Core Processors Shootout

Started by: TAViX | Date 01/30/08 04:58:37 PM
Comments: 116 | Last Comment:  07/11/08 03:33:24 PM

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41. 
I gave this article a poor rating due to a big factual flaw.

Check out retail prices on newegg or any other big vendor and compare to the table Xbitlabs uses in this article.

The prices of the AMD processors are listed about 4-15% over the retail level while the Intel processors are listed 8-19% under the retail prices!!!

This is a gross factual misrepresentation unworthy of this site, which i have generaly found to be trustworthy.

Let's take for instance prices on newegg vs. the listed prices in the article:

Pentium E2160: 79$ vs. 64$ = +23,4%
Pentium E2180: 85$ vs. 74$ = +14,9%
Pentium E2200: 94$ vs. 84$ = +11,9%
C2D E4500: 123$ vs. 113$ = + 8,8%
C2D E4600: 144$ vs. 133$ = + 8,3%
C2D E8400: 230$ vs. 183$ = +25,7%

Avrage: 13.5% more expensive than Xbitlabs reference prices (exluding E8400 due to possible overpricing)

X2 4200+: 64$ vs. 68$ = -6,3%
X2 4400+: 70$ vs. 78$ = -11,4%
X2 4800+: 85$ vs. 89$ = -4,7%
X2 5000+: 90$ vs. 104$ = -15,6%
X2 5200+: 110$ vs. 125$ = -13,6%
X2 5600+: 140$ vs. 146$ = -4,3%
X2 6000+: 160$ vs. 167$ = -4,4%
X2 6400+: 170$ vs. 178$ = -4,7%

Average: 8,1% cheaper that Xbitlabs reference prices

The bottomline is that now we have a relative price/performance parity between Intel and AMD in the low-end segment. Of course AMD platforms are relatilvely cheaper than Intel platforms due to simpler design (i.e. no memory controller on the north-bridge), the Intel processors today have much better overclocking headroom.

I have never seen such unbalance before on Xbitlabs, and this worries me.
[Posted by: wICE_man | Date: 02/01/08 10:50:16 AM]
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42. 
and for those morons screaming inaccurate price, read this:
"These are the today’s best buys, if you can find them at the price close to Intel’s official one (unfortunately, it is hardly possible until the market gets saturated with 45nm solutions). "
[Posted by: M6.3 | Date: 02/01/08 01:50:24 PM]
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43. 
Thx a lot for this article, it has helped me to decide ^^
I always bought amd but now i'm going to test the Intel E8000.
[Posted by: Fab | Date: 02/02/08 01:05:38 AM]

44. 
@[°L°]@
Good article
[Posted by: Sniperdc | Date: 02/02/08 04:59:22 AM]

45. 
Hope that there will come such a review for the new Quads. (specially the new Intel Q9x50 's)
[Posted by: Source | Date: 02/02/08 06:22:53 AM]
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46. 
Great work !! thx
[Posted by: Raprabby | Date: 02/02/08 07:41:23 AM]

47. 
Excellent report - thanks!

* Any chance of you doing this for MOBILE processors?

Thanks in advance.
[Posted by: Scott D | Date: 02/02/08 09:35:53 AM]

48. 
e8xxx ftw
[Posted by: nagger | Date: 02/02/08 11:04:18 AM]

49. 
It will be harder for Intel to achieve market dominance. OEM's like Dell and HP will continue to buy their product because, unlike the 90's, they have a solid track record (aka history) to be adequate OEM vendors.

Airlines continue to fly for years under bankruptcy restructurings. AMD should not have any problems, even if bankruptcy happens; they will re-structure and move on, but likely there will always be an alternative to Intel, even if they are solidly second-class processors.

The public has gotten a taste of mainstream $500 desktops and $750 notebooks - both of those numbers continue to fall. Plus, let's face it, if Intel's latest product offering is only marginally better than last year's model, only those who have an outdated machine will upgrade. If Intel or AMD cannot show more computational power with less energy and heat dissipation year over year, they're both screwed.

Then they'll just be service parts companies.

Is Penryn a huge leap over Conroe 65 nm? Not especially unless you have a higher clock speed or optimized software. Is Barcelona (at least the dual core variants) a huge leap over Athlon64 X2? Sorta, but the higher clock Athlon X2's will cream the still-unavailable lower clock Phenom X2's.

If I had to upgrade now and I wanted a mainstream desktop, I'd just go with what was cheaper. Intel still has a distinct edge on mobile methinks with respect to power and efficiency. Servers, don't really have an opinion, but since professionals are making those moves, I'd say the market data will tell you who's ahead.
[Posted by: mark1 | Date: 02/02/08 06:39:27 PM]

50. 
This test is absolute not credible, this is the Intel propaganda portal. Here there is no longer news, just misleading advertising and fraudulent.

Actually sites like these are destroying confidence in the really specialized portals of the network.

Not agregare more because the truth is evident, the site is a complete fiasco.

Their evidence is incomplete and inconsistent, and their professional objectionable, really devoted to advise them otherwise, because the money from Intel and other sponsors, will not be enough to pay for legal claims to be, because in a close already known change laws such maneuvers will be punished severely (in money and something more secure).
[Posted by: Mike Donovan | Date: 02/03/08 02:22:32 AM]
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51. 
Just have a look on RAM freq. and actual prices of both brand, this test could be said to be faked for intel's sake.
Intel is still a compnay who make profit of his marketing power and brand-image of his high end offer to sale proc more expensive and as powerful as amd.
[Posted by: AlBahtaar | Date: 02/04/08 07:27:23 AM]
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52. 
quit interesting. I am only insterested in low power CPU. So E2200 is my target. However, I cannot find any saler at the price ($84). After searching the tigerdirect, I find all the intel CPUs have higher price and AMD CPUs have lower price.
I'd like to say: the market is always right.
BTW, can you tell me where you find those prices? Thanks.
[Posted by: Plumber | Date: 02/04/08 07:06:08 PM]

53. 
That is a dishonest review! Where are AMD BE series procs? You compare technologies of the two different years!
[Posted by: Gang | Date: 02/05/08 04:26:31 AM]

54. 
You have to compare real prices in the market, if you want to say, that some CPU is overpriced or not. In addition, you have to compare the prices for same equip mainboards and only than you can say on which platform you get more for the same amount of money.
[Posted by: Core2Duo | Date: 02/07/08 08:47:41 AM]

55. 
Somebody said Intel's price is actually lower than the market just because the vendor. For me, it cannot explain AMD's price is much higher than the market.
I got confused by the prices. Please don't cheat your readers!
[Posted by: Plumber | Date: 02/07/08 10:51:07 AM]

56. 
A proper perspective would have had all processors running at the same memory frequency, instead of using 'peculiarities' of systems as a reason to run the new Intel CPUs with a 33% higher rate.

[Posted by: Cynical | Date: 02/09/08 07:58:44 PM]

57. 
add the more photos of processre to home page of ur sites
[Posted by: vishu | Date: 02/20/08 10:18:49 PM]

58. 
Interesting review, albeit prices quoted do not reflect street price of the processors. Taking current market prices would undoubtedly show that on the lower end (barring any overclocking), AMD CPUs are still a better deal especially when you take into account that AMD-based motherboards are generally cheaper than Intel-based ones.

A disclaimer would have been good, though. I don't know where you got the prices for the AMD chips but the prices quoted for the Intel is the cost per piece if you buy 1000 units. Meaning unless you're a wholesaler or a fairly large OEM, you won't be able to buy the Intel chips for that price.
[Posted by: aerischan | Date: 02/27/08 08:12:11 AM]

59. 
you are forgetting that the prices of amd motherboards are a lot lower than intel motherboards.
[Posted by: LvD | Date: 03/09/08 07:12:50 AM]

60. 
its definitely very impressive shootout presentations! awesome! keep it up bro!
[Posted by: r0N1N | Date: 03/10/08 06:34:38 PM]

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