X-bit labs

Started by: gomogo | Date 02/09/08

Comments: 63 | Last Comment:  07/10/08

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1. I will be building a new computer soon with a P5E3 X38 mobo and trying to decide which 45nm (dual or quad) cpu to use.I prefer HD video.how will the Q9450 with its larger cache compare?

2. Wow, the Phailure managed to beat a Dual-Core in 6 tests!

3. Not bad, it beats the Q6600 in performance and power consumption, yet costs the same. A higher multi and 12MB L2 would have been nice though. :P

I'm personally waiting for a Q9450... only $50 more but you get double the cache and the 8x multi should allow for more overclocking headroom too.

7.5 multiplier with less cache then it predecessor? Performance looks good but this is disappointing given how long the 6600 has been out :-(

If the Q9300 is meant to be a budget quad core along the lines of the Phenom, then its not too unusual I think. Its going to be priced in the same bracket as the E8400, so that'll make it about $50 less than the Q6600 (of course obligatory price gouging for new stuff online is going to kill that at first).

Nah, the Q9300 will be priced the same as the Q6600 - US$266.

It's still a better chip all round than the Q6600, but if only the multiplier was higher, it would've been so much better for overclocking...

I agree that my bet for the replacement for the q6600 is going to be the Q9650. Back Ordered for $324. Looks to be the best bang for the buck, and that is what we are truly talking about. Isn't it?
Can't wait to see how the Q9300 compares to the Q9450.

I meant the Q9450 not the Q9650. Typo

4. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html at this page there is a mistake i think. There is 2 times written Unreal Tournament 3 game data and each of them is the same. I think Quake 4 game data was forgotten because Quake 4 is one of the your favorite game. :)

Thanks for the review, by the way.

5. nice review, usefull for those who can't decide beetween Q6600 and the new quad's...still, temperature data would be great!

cheers

6. When it will be out?

7. Power consumption question for you...
What power supply is used for these tests? Is it 80+ compliant?

8. Ilya: as you've mentioned before, only some of the tests in the Mathematica benchmark are multithreaded (specifically, the numerical operations that use the MKL). However, you might perhaps find it more informative to run several instances of the benchmark in parallel in the case of multi-core systems.

Although you would need a kernel licence for each instance of the kernel you wish to run, I've written a notebook which automatically deals with running the benchmarks in parallel and combining them into a total score. By all means PM or e-mail me (via the forum) if you're interested in my sending this to you.

9. Excellent well balanced review.

10. Since there was a delay, does anyone know when the Quads are coming out? I've heard it was Mid-Feb or March.

11. yo clueless - of coarse i new this before the artice as i have posted for months:
"Today we are going to talk about the youngest quad-core Yorkfield CPU, which should replace the today’s market hit – Core 2 Quad Q6600."

wrong! its 1333 balance my friends again - i have said this months - you can google it!


any novice can clock a q6600 to 3.6ghz

a 1333 part is not replacing a 1066 part -to quote your own words:

"It is not enough to increase processor Vcore to ensure that it will run stably at high FSB speeds. To ensure stability you need to increase other voltages, too: CPU PLL Voltage, FSB Termination Voltage and NB Voltage. For example, when we overclocked our Core 2 Quad Q9300 to 3.5GHz we used the following settings:"

why start article out by saying its going to replace it? you guys must not have read my posts on THG?

I really like you site - but your previous articles even show after fsb 400 or 1600 fsb that pefornce decreases and you have issues!

bad intro, stock settings mean nothing today - again overclocking is mainstrean dell and hp do it.

the sweat spot on all C2D chips is multiplier of 9 the exact number of q6600. i would not be so sarcstic if where not for 2 facts: 1) i have posted this over and over on THG and 2) you say this is going to replace it but your own test show its no 3.6-3.8ghz chip.

i have been shipping 3.6+ghz air cooled systems for months.

Bottom line, intel is raising prices, you need to move up the ladder to get your 4-4.25ghz quad system.

a 1333 part can replace a 1066 part! no more 1066 quad-core going to be released and there shouldn't be any problem with this article said 'replace'

by the way.. the C2Q sure far superior to the Phenom :)

nice review after all xbitlabs.. keep it up!

No one was implying that the 9300 was a socket replacement for the Q6000. The point is that Intel is not supporting (relative to process improvements) the same budget level of overclocking in quad core that it did with previous chips. Blame lack of competition from AMD. Your right though, you will need to spend more to get a better overall solution!

Yeah Dell OCs. Only on their OPd XPS systems.

Stock settings do matter. Not everyone who buys a computer is a giggling/drooling technophile who tries to eke out every last iota of performance from their system. Most people I know don't even defrag, for Christ's sake.

Don't get me wrong, I OC all of my systems. B-)

So what is the point of you post? We should all be happy about a 7% increase and bow down and kiss Intels ass right? After Intel puts the memory controller on the core and adds CSI what else do you think they will give us? Dont even bring up cell, and ARM is about three years away on just laptop computers.

what a rude post - by me! This is a great site - i be honest i should not drink beer and makes posts - i admitt it!

12. I am gonna have to ask it again ->
Why isn't there any x264 encoding benchmark ?
For the love of God, vastly more people use x264 encoder than the Mainconcept H264 encoder. So, why this love with Mainconcept ?

MainConcept is a bigger name in the industry and more professionals will likely use it.

While x264 can achieve better results than MainConcept, it's at the expense of a lot of time. MainConcept still edges out x264 in the quality/performance ratio.

But x264 is free.
What's more, i think the majority of people who read this kind of review aren't professionals but simple users, who from time to time will encode something with their cpu.
Furthermore if you look into sc3n3 releases and anime funsubs more than 90% percent of the content is x264.
I never said why they have the Mainconcept benchmark at the first place, but since they have it, they should also have some x264 benchmarks too.
Anyway "Biggiesized" thank you for your reply!

13. Interesting ...
But the main question for me is:
"Will this creature (Q9300) work with my ASUS P5N32-E SLI which is 680i chipset or to take Q6600"
because I don't whant to change MB until nehalem or fusion.

I'm pretty sure it was announced already that the 45nm quads won't work on the 680i because of power management issues? That's why Nvidia released the 7x0i series, to fix the compatibility issue (though now its uncertain whether it can support the 1600Mhz bus speed).

14. I used to read anandtech and toms hardware but this is far better!!!

15. It looks like Crysis is lying! They said Crysis will take advantage of 4 cores, unfortunately from the charts (The E8500 vs Q9300) Crysis on a quad core is -20.9% slower!

16. Looks like I made a good call with my E8400 for gaming. Thanks for the info!

How much did you pay for it? Nowadays Newegg is pricewhoring its customer base--$239.99 for the E8400. If the Q9300 launches at OEM/1000 prices, you might as well buy one instead of the Wolfdale.

17. How about heat comparison with Q6600 overclocked and non-overclocked?

Thanks.

18. Looks like I'll keep my overclocked q6600 for the time being :)

19. nice work

20. Well, I tried to join the forums to issue an apology for my rude comments but apparently and i am banned before i even joined! Wow! So I just posted it here.
First, this is a great site - period! Your reviews are really good, honest and strait forward. As I posted above, I should not post while drinking beer. So I am posting my official apology on this article. It was a good article and deserved way more respect then my post. ok guys good luck!

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