X-bit labs

Started by: black | Date 03/05/08

Comments: 37 | Last Comment:  03/28/08

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1. All plans... no action... I bet they'll be delayed to about a month or two from the initial plans...

Not only that...2.5GHz max? 125W TDP? So by the end of the year...they'll have parts that are still inadequate compared to Intel's current parts

2. They might also have a 2.6 GHz part @ 140W

3. And a 3.0 ghz OctoFX platform drawing 500 watts...

4. Well, If i were cash short, i wouldn't pour more money in to 65nm. And thats all these announcements are, 65nm chips already being made. Honestly, they've had to be the farm on going 45nm, and they knew this when they hit snags with fabbing a native Quad core on 65nm. Considering the IMC issue, any native quad from AMD was going to be bigger, more complex, and multi clock. So someone was smoking something if they thought it was going to scale at 65nm.

However, here we are, and hopefully for AMDs Short Run prospects, they are able to pull the 45nm switch in record time. It seems as though they may have done just that, and if so, we can finally see a native quad core thats more then a tech demo.

Personally, they would have been far smarter to go MCM, however we all know that, and further, they would have been better off fabbing dual core k10s at 65nm that had a chance in hell of scaling to c2d speeds. The majority of the market is still dual cores, and as time plus money wasn't on their side for a 45nm transition, they should have fabbed the higher ASP chips (k10 dual cores) from the start on their own SOI 65nm process, and subbed all the K8s out to chartered, and even TSMC.

If it was feasible, and utilizing ATI's experience with TSMC, it would have been bright for them to do K8 on a 55nm process with TSMC, in addition to the 65nm (simplified K8) with Chartered. Even if early production pains lead to a less scalable 55nm K8, the cost decrease per chip would've helped them out per sale to those OEM contracts they still hold. However, again, that may have only served to take resources away from K10.5 tweak, and the ramp to 45nm.

Here's to a successful and quick 45nm transition. The only step forward to success for the ludicrous adhesion to a native quad core design vs MCM.

(Note, even at 45nm, Intel still isn't mfg a native quad, perhaps this just goes to show the difficulties inherent in such an endeavour.)

5. Just an observation: Intel's 45nm chips are still hard to find and overpriced (compared to 1000 chip lots).

Dell, for example, has hardly any Wolfdales and charges as much for an E8400 as a Q6600. Same story at Newegg, Tiger Direct and Zipzoomfly.

Didn't these chips launch last month? Early last month?

6. AMD will continue its path to failure!!

anti-"AMD Fanboy" will continue his path to be the Ultimate Moron!!!

so your pissing on your pants now fanboy....

Yeap. And I got your mother to suck it up.

Man! She is good your mother! She loved sucking until I blew my load into her throat. She gobbled it right up! Wow!...And then she wanted more!

We've been at it for hours!

so now your only good at cock sucking....

No. Your mother is. She's awesome! Just like anti-"AMD Fanboy"'s mother.

But your moms better. She likes it from behind in BOTH holes!

no wonder a dog won't even f*ck you even if you paid them.... fag!

hahaha... i also heard you got a penis the size of match sticks... and a brainthe size of peanuts fanboy.... AMD is going down so go cry to your mama....

No jarhead, your mother is crying to me...Screaming for more while I pound her tight pussy.

really?!? maybe you're being pounded by neighbor's dog.. coz last time we heard you couldn't find your dick even under a microscope

this is a classic example of a top-notched AMD fanboy!

No matter how silly it is.... they keep believing that AMD is the top dog in today's market and that they always deliver! A bunch of fools

Nah. we don't think AMD is "top dog".

We AMD users believe that without AMD, you Intel "enthusiasts" would be paying for the roof for Intel CPUs.

Haven't you all forgotten the era where Intel totally dominated the PC processor market? (The period before the K7 came along, and PIII prices were high)...How did Intel react when K7 or Athlon came? Do you remember? That's right, they price slashed like crazy!)

Competition is a wonderful thing...Too bad most of you are too blinded by these nonsensical "anti-this and that" posts that deliberately provoke others. (Some of you are really sick, by the way).

B.S!

Go back and learn your economics 101... Intel is producing large quantities of 65nm chips and they are about to mass produce 45nm... They need to maintain the current price levels in order to sell those chips!

the K7 era was almost a decade ago... get over it... AMD just got lucky with it... with the K8 they got complacent...

Well we do acknowledge that competition is good! but with AMD's continuous blunders, you can hardly call it a competition...

Do you feel rich now? Living the lifestyle of luxury? Are you completely satisfied with your life, now that you have to be little others to make yourself feel better?

For the love of god, its processors. Why must you people argue over this?

At the end of the day, no one cares if the processor in that box is AMD, Intel or even VIA, as long as the computer works and does what they need to do. That's all that counts.

be little?!? Nah, its trying to get a point thru the thick skulls of some of this fools....

We're pointing out the better product in the market... only a stupid fool will support an inferior product...

COMPETITION my @$$!

AMD couldn't even comepete with their successive blunders! AMD nowadays is more of a BENCHWARMER than a decent competitor!


@Drowner

Well said my man!

So what happens when the tables turn? Are you going to go back on the defensive when some AMD fanboy starts striking your nerve?

I may not know much about processors, but people, that's all they are.

Why must you folks need to stir others to make yourselves feel better? Is that how you're gonna live the rest of your lives? (Stuck in this childish "mine is better than yours!" syndrome)

dolby, you AMD pussy...Grow some balls and stand up for the Green TEAM!

well he does have better brains than you... and maybe a bigger dick than yourself!

Drowner? LOL! You drown in your own cum, don't you? Fag boy.

Ukitnam bakla! kantutem jay aso yo!

@anti-"AMD Fanboy"

You're right on the spot dude!! AMD is only good at planning and releasing plans. They have a good record of delayed or being late in their product releases.

Are you banging his mom as well?

LOSER!! just like all AMD fanboys!

7. ah, well, fail again in processors till the release of 45nm and then, we'll see .. again.

Good for AMD its graphics market is going good enough for them to stay in business, let's hope their luck will change with 45nm

8. back in 2006 AMD mentioned stuff like Z Sram or 0 Ram to use in their Cache since that type of ram takes less space than traditional sRam.

So whatever happened to it?

as usual... AMD is ZERO!

All plans... No Action!

9. So any word on the "Shanghai" or AMD's K10.5?

10. I was never a fan of AMD. My friend's AMD builds never seemed to last. However my own latest build is AMD 6400 based and runs like a dream. I'm sure AMD will catch up, and, compete as they did before (which was when i took any real notice of them). When they do they will be at a technological advantage and the chances they've taken will pay off.
Many computer manufacturers sell AMD-based computers now. That says something.

11. within fewer price,better performance, perfect gaming :only be found when it is AMD

12. I m using AMD phenom.it is absolutely perfect.INTEL is nice,but without AMD market will b hell 4 us

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