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Ultimate Heavy-Weight Fight: Radeon HD 4890 CrossFireX vs. GeForce GTX 285 SLI

Started by: Vlad | Date 04/23/09 12:48:53 AM
Comments: 11 | Last Comment:  05/14/09 11:42:51 AM

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An excellent review from you guys.I've been waiting for this review for quite a while now... But i have a point to suggest if i could...:
I think that using Adaptive AA on quality for ATI cards vs transparent-Multi-sampling AA for nvidia cards isn't fair for ATI cards, regarding the effectiveness and the demand of those AA settings.This is a qualtiy comparison article from xbitlabs:

According to this article, "Nvidia's Transparent AA Multi-Sampling hardly does any job at all.ATI's Performance Adaptive AA is clearly better than Nvidia's Transparent AA multi-sampling, but is obviously not as good as Quality Adaptive AA"

And the thing is that i think that using the Q AD_AA for ATI cards hits the performance badly especially in UBISOFT games, like Far Cry 2 and HAWX...Cuz with my single 4870 TOXIC 1G. at 780MHz on my X58 platfrom with a Core I7 at 3.34Ghz, i get in HAWX at 1920 res. on max setts with 4x aa over 40 average fps "vs 27 fps for the 4890 here"....and slighlty over 43fps in
far Cry 2 at the previous setts "vs 44 fps here"...

I think that leaving AA on the Default multi-sampling mode for both cards from ATI and Nvidia would make a better performance comparison...
A response from the reviewer would be greatly appreciated.
0 0 [Posted by: Vlad  | Date: 04/23/09 12:48:53 AM]
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It's a very old article and currently we don't have much time, but we'll try to investigate Quality vs. Performance AAA matter again ASAP.
0 0 [Posted by: Vader@Xbit  | Date: 04/23/09 03:14:36 PM]
Thanks for the response.i think it's very important to test the card on the same/similar IQ setts to to get an accurate performance comparison.

Again many thanks for the great article.


0 0 [Posted by: Vlad  | Date: 04/25/09 07:50:33 AM]

I agree with Vlad regarding AA.

How come in this review single 4890 is 90% times ahead 285? Is it a matter of settings?
0 0 [Posted by: Tuvok  | Date: 04/23/09 04:06:21 AM]
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No you don't.I was taling about the AD-AA on "QUALITY" being more demanding than the TS-MS-AA which barely differs from the MS-AA.
and that's why the 4890 takes big performance hits in Far Cry 2 and HAWX.....

0 0 [Posted by: Vlad  | Date: 04/23/09 12:30:16 PM]

Great comparison as usual. Just what I wanted when I bought a couple BFG 285 OCXs for my rig.
0 0 [Posted by: digitalrurouni  | Date: 04/23/09 12:47:47 PM]

I have a few suggestions.

1) 1280x1024 is soo 2005. There is no need for it given the power of these cards.

2) I don't think a 4890 was meant to compete with GTX285.

3) Having the cards being tested shown with different shade/colour/highlights on the graph makes it much easier to find them. Otherwise, for every graph, I have to read the names on the left to see which card stands where, which can get tiring.

Great article.
0 0 [Posted by: Mr. BonBon  | Date: 04/26/09 07:41:31 AM]
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Curious but 4890 is their top single gpu card. 285 gtx is the other company's top single gpu card. How can they not be meant to compete with each other?
0 0 [Posted by: digitalrurouni  | Date: 04/27/09 07:57:06 AM]
Doesn't matter. You'd have to look at the price to see where each GPU stands.
The cheapest GTX 285 you can find is around $330-340 while the 4890 can be had for $250. That's a big difference and instantly puts the 4890 in a different class.
0 0 [Posted by: Mr. BonBon  | Date: 04/27/09 04:54:10 PM]
That is a fair point. 2 sides to a coin kind of thing ATI is definitely unbeatable in price to performance!
0 0 [Posted by: digitalrurouni  | Date: 04/28/09 07:40:52 AM]

Hmm strange i can swear that GTX295 @ 1920 x 1200 Enthusiast (ambush) getting alot
more fps than that..tested many times at that settings i get 32 fps avg.
0 0 [Posted by: psyside  | Date: 05/14/09 11:42:51 AM]


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