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Nvidia GeForce 210 and GeForce GT 220 Review: Revenge of the Low-End?

Started by: uibo | Date 12/17/09 12:18:35 AM
Comments: 14 | Last Comment:  12/30/09 04:45:55 AM

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Did you guys retest every card showed in the video playback quality benchmarks with the newer drivers? Would tinkering around in the driver noise settings change the score?
0 0 [Posted by: uibo  | Date: 12/17/09 12:18:35 AM]
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Multimedia tests were made prior to December 3, 2009, hence, prior to release of Nvidia Forceware 195.62 WHQL drivers.

The multimedia performance of GeForce GT 220 and 210 will be re-checked in future articles.
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/17/09 08:04:28 AM]
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no drivers would save these crap cards. latest trash from crapvidia, including OEM 310 and 315.
0 0 [Posted by: Nameisis  | Date: 12/17/09 12:24:46 PM]
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Hahah... yeah I completely agree with you. Let's call them crapvidia, or even better, nvidiots These 9400 GT I have, even lose to my friend's Radeon X1600. That's not funny you know..
0 0 [Posted by: Chocobollz  | Date: 12/30/09 04:45:55 AM]
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Considering the price/performance class of these cards , shouldn't the game tests reflect that? You're running with 4xAA and maxed out details, but the games can still be playable if you turn AA off and tone down the detail levels a bit.
0 0 [Posted by: Joe Public  | Date: 12/17/09 02:12:56 PM]
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Thank you for including GT 240 power consumption and fps results. Will there be a separate review on 240?
0 0 [Posted by: bamkapowpow  | Date: 12/17/09 05:05:06 PM]
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IDK Joe. Almost every review site does this. I guess it is to keep consistency between reviews. Still, I agree whole-heartedly that bottom-barrel hardware should NOT be tested like high-end gear.

@Anton: How about instead of finding out how much these cards suck, you can find out what they CAN play. Throw in some older DX9 games at lower settings while you're at it. Doom3-MQ, UT2k4, FEAR. Granted, the G210 probably could barely hang on with these games above 1024x768.
0 0 [Posted by: cheeseman  | Date: 12/18/09 09:19:35 AM]
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Why is every test tested with FSAA 4x and 16xAF on this class of videocards. I think its not hard to turn off FSAA and use only 4x or 8x AF.
Or all test results are just copied from other articles ?
0 0 [Posted by: Zool  | Date: 12/19/09 10:59:05 AM]
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I agree with Joe. Video cards need to be tested to see what level they can play at, not what level they can fail miserably at.
0 0 [Posted by: bbo320  | Date: 12/19/09 07:39:06 PM]
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Not bad alternative for Ati card ,but u can do video transcoding over GPU even with cheapest Ati HD2400 or HD4xxx ,MPEG2
0 0 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 12/19/09 09:04:32 PM]
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You can transcode mpeg2 and other format over GPU with ATI Avivo in divx to HD res. mpeg2 or H264 even with cheapest Ati HD2400 or cheapest HD4xxx to save time specially good for people who have weaker CPU.GT240 with cuda sounds good and have good position.But in this segment Ati still have advantage.
0 0 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 12/19/09 09:13:46 PM]
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For the price that they are charging, it's more sensible to get something else... comparatively to the disappointing price/performance ratio that these chips are showing.
0 0 [Posted by: goury  | Date: 12/20/09 01:11:08 AM]
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dont expect much from there lowend Gpu's they are old geforce 8 architecture.
0 0 [Posted by: 3Dkiller  | Date: 12/20/09 03:11:04 PM]
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Joe, Cheeseman, Zool, Bbo,

From the general performance testing lab point of view, we should test everything using the same method. We do admit that ours is not ideal. However, there are no ideal methods.

In fact, there are several tactics of conducting tests:

- Perform tests with accordance to the general methodology (which is to max out almost everything possible) and get adequate performance results, e.g., reader gets the right impression of performance difference between high-end and low-end graphics cards. You at least know that card A is two times faster than the card B in all the tests.
- Manually tune all the graphics cards to show 30fps, 60fps, etc. in all games and show differences in image quality. While this gives readers ideas how to tune games (which also means that they will come back to teach us how to do it ) to run at proper speed, this does not provide any objective information about performance differences between various graphics boards.
- Perform tests with settings set to “low” or “medium” or decrease resolution or use old games. In that case performance of higher-end graphics cards may be limited by performance of CPU and the information about relative performance differences will be misrepresented. And even if everything is correct, there will be readers not satisfied with our settings.
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