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Muscle-Flexing: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB Graphics Card Review

Started by: sanity | Date 01/14/12 09:44:07 PM
Comments: 24 | Last Comment:  11/06/13 04:35:13 AM

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0 4 [Posted by: sanity  | Date: 01/14/12 09:44:07 PM]
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To bad nvidia doesn't have anything on the table right now...Bad for the price...
3 1 [Posted by: TAViX  | Date: 01/15/12 03:18:50 AM]
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I'm not a fan of $500+ GPUs but for those who are this is a nice upgrade and top of the line single GPU solution. Everyone will benefit from the 7000 series technology evolution.
4 2 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 01/15/12 09:35:19 AM]
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I actually agree with that. New GCN architecture seems like a MAJOR change from standard VLIW4/5 stuff done up to that point since HD2k.

Even if this card is too expensive, 7950, 78xx and 77xx are supposed to be GCN based, bringing similar benefits and performance scaled down accordingly.
0 0 [Posted by: rrr  | Date: 01/17/12 02:28:45 AM]
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Well the HD7970 card is only 40-45% faster than HD6970. That means HD78xx series will probably be as fast as 6970 or barely faster. Considering HD6950 unlocks ~ 6970 speeds, pretty much everything below HD7800 series will be a waste. 6950 has been available for 12 months at $250 and below. HD7870 will probably be $299.

That means AMD has done nothing to move the performance at <$249, which is were the bulk of the discrete GPU desktop sales are.
1 2 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 01/17/12 09:38:56 AM]
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I am not concerned with gaming performance however. GPGPU gains are significant, new possibilities open, eg. this architecture is said to be more suitable for physics than old VLIW4/5.
1 1 [Posted by: rrr  | Date: 01/19/12 11:13:02 AM]
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If all you care about are GPGPU performance, then might as well wait for Kepler. HD7970 is barely faster in those tasks vs. 1st generation Fermi. Surely Kepler will be much faster. Not to mention for GPGPU, it's all about the software where CUDA leads hands down in terms of developer support.
1 0 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 01/20/12 07:21:20 AM]
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There are not many hard facts about Kepler, so IMO it's better to wait than to make hit-or-miss assumptions.
1 0 [Posted by: rrr  | Date: 01/20/12 01:03:43 PM]
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wait, have you seen the GFLOPS/watt of the HD 6000 and that of the HD 7000 and the GTX 500

the GTX 500 series has ~5 but the HD 6000 has ~15 and the HD 7000 ~20

even Nvidia said it's cards would probably reach 8 (I think)

and most devs nowadays prefer Direct compute or openCL than CUDA
1 1 [Posted by: madooo12  | Date: 02/01/12 03:53:29 AM]
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Drop left4dead2 and add the witcher 2! No one cares about a game that old that gets 200+ fps. When I look to see if I wanna buy a new video card I want to see the most demanding recent games. Also curious to see Alice Madness with physics enabled on a non nvidia card to see how much of a performence hit you get.
3 0 [Posted by: Mythoss  | Date: 01/15/12 11:18:09 AM]
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can't wait for kepler!
3 0 [Posted by: beck2448  | Date: 01/15/12 08:41:14 PM]
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How come there is no Battlefield 3 testing?
1 2 [Posted by: CloudFire  | Date: 01/15/12 09:02:13 PM]
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How can I test in Battlefield 3?
1 0 [Posted by: Jordan  | Date: 01/16/12 04:09:53 AM]
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You can select a 64 player map (full of players), select one that starts out with a vehicle which would require for you to drive it into land and stop your test when you reach a certain conquest capture point (A for example)(start the test when you are in the boat with no one around to eliminate any inconsistency with different spawning locations). This would take at least 1 minute on a consistent route and use that as your baseline. Take min/max and average fps. Wake Island & Kharg Island seems to be good choices as they have boats you can ride into land.

Multiplayer testing is way more reflective of a system as a whole when it comes to FPS in first person shooter games. Even on older systems, single player FPS are much higher than they are in MP. That is why I would rather see a MP test than a single player even though the scenarios/route will not be 100% accurate each time, but only close. If you feel MP is too inconsistent, then you can do a single player fraps run, like with scenes from Operation Swordbreaker. I don't mind seeing how the 7970 stack up vs other cards in that scenario either.
1 1 [Posted by: CloudFire  | Date: 01/16/12 01:29:07 PM]
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Life is too short to do this kind of testing.
2 1 [Posted by: cosminmcm  | Date: 01/19/12 06:57:48 AM]
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Fastest single chip video card.Runs cool and very quiet even at full load, gave me 40-45% extra performance than my 6970 HIS icecool,no crashes after hours of gaming!
Best ever, pricey but you pay for performance I am very happy with my purchase.I had before sapphire 6990 and while performance was better it was little too much heat and noise from that card so I sold it and got one 6970 from his and it was very good but I missed my 6990 performance...not anymore!!!!!Get it you will not regreat your decision.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/...p;creativeASIN=B006P88VO8
1 2 [Posted by: amythompson172  | Date: 01/16/12 03:51:21 PM]
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If you have that kind of money that is.
2 0 [Posted by: rrr  | Date: 01/17/12 02:26:25 AM]
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disappointed Crysis2 and BF3 weren't in the benchmarks. They have to be the hardest on games right now.. ??
4 0 [Posted by: south side sammy  | Date: 01/16/12 04:29:39 PM]
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Thanks for another excellent hardware review. Two points:

#) I think you meant HD6970 in the sentence "It is 39.6 and 43.9% ahead of the HD 7970 in the MSAA-less mode".

#) Please include Crysis Warhead numbers. We have lots of history with that engine so comparisons are easy.
3 0 [Posted by: Papoulka  | Date: 01/17/12 06:13:34 AM]
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Good review, but I don't know why, probably AMD did not send xbit a sample or sent later;"We’ve got a reference sample of the new AMD card without any packaging or accessories."
If xbit had the sample as the many websites had it, this review is kinda late.
But thanks again.
0 0 [Posted by: Pouria  | Date: 01/17/12 10:04:16 AM]
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Maybe AMD have been posting around a hand selected great over-clocker to review sites to generate interest among OC enthusiasts?
0 0 [Posted by: Prosthetic_Head  | Date: 01/30/12 06:48:48 AM]
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Why oh why have you not at minimum included BF3, Skyrim or Crysis 2? I would even go as far as saying SWTOR should be there as well.

Who cares about some of those old games that already run 100+ FPS on 2 gen old HW?

Hmmyeah, something to think about if you want to be taken serious by hardcore gamers (you know, the ones who are the target buyers for this card).
2 0 [Posted by: thematrix606  | Date: 01/18/12 02:03:15 AM]
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Good review, but please can you look at compute performance of graphics cards in the future?
It's becoming increasingly relevant & is supposedly more of a focus with this specific architecture.
Thanks!

2 1 [Posted by: Prosthetic_Head  | Date: 01/30/12 06:46:55 AM]
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