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Six PCI TV-Tuners Roundup

Started by: Solomalee | Date 02/17/04 11:41:54 PM
Comments: 176 | Last Comment:  10/18/09 03:00:46 AM

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1. 
That's isn't a conclusion, it's a rationale about how to come to a conclusion.

Oh well, guess I'll have to read the whole article!
[Posted by: Solomalee  | Date: 02/17/04 11:41:54 PM]

2. 
Nice article, lots of pretty pictures (I think I want to go to Russia, lots of beautiful women, if TV is any indication). However, one thing that's missing is any mention of MPEG encoding/decoding, which makes a big difference in PVR-type applications.
[Posted by: mudboy  | Date: 02/18/04 04:23:45 AM]

3. 
878? Some kind of history lesson?

Perhaps a bit of research as to what is current would have been in order. (Try Googling 'cx2388x'!)

17 pages to do what could have been done in about 3 or 4! (Ever heard of tables?)

And a discussion of TV-Cards without mention of DScaler?
[Posted by: Bypasser  | Date: 02/18/04 05:16:54 AM]
+ expand thread (1 answer)

4. 
I thought you couldn't record/display HDTV yet. The article glosses over this point, as well as PVR functionality. Boo!!
[Posted by: Heinrich  | Date: 02/18/04 09:48:25 AM]

5. 
Any chance you could include a ATI TV-wonder in the mix (next time?). It is a truely amazing card.

As already mentioned testing of the mpeg recording features (for PVR ) would be a plus.
[Posted by: Entz  | Date: 02/18/04 09:52:40 AM]

6. 
How much longer will I have to wait to get a card that decodes digital cable TV? I think most cable providers use the same system to distribute the signal on coax.
[Posted by: Petz  | Date: 02/18/04 12:09:14 PM]

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Those cards will be outdated in a week. Look at FusionHDTV3, MyHD, HiPix.
[Posted by: Curiosity  | Date: 02/18/04 01:04:10 PM]

8. 
Huh... is this the article or a collections of notes on thier way to becoming an article?
[Posted by: frankinla  | Date: 02/18/04 05:11:09 PM]

9. 
This article is more like an introduction to TV cards; in my opinion it is missing the more important points;
a) Configuration issues like tuning and image size
b) Compatibility with third part software like: Showsfit..
c) The most important how it works as VCR:
c.1) Recording configurations( Recording quality: Supported resolutions; codecs etc. )
c.2) Quality numbers like number of saved frames per second, lost frames, etc.
c.3) Time Shifting( Quality results: like Frames/sec., lost frames, image size,
image quality etc. )
[Posted by: JDomingues  | Date: 02/19/04 02:54:04 AM]

10. 

HDTV anyone??? High tech website reviewing stone age technology :)

[Posted by: NRamahi  | Date: 02/19/04 08:37:54 AM]

11. 
vreau driver pentru tv-tuner
[Posted by: catalin_2003  | Date: 02/20/04 04:21:09 AM]

12. 
vreau driver pentru tv tuner asta?
[Posted by: catalin_2003  | Date: 02/20/04 04:55:56 AM]

13. 
Its taken three years to finally begin to assemble a desktop video PC - "PLUS".

I'm trying to find information on capturing MPEG2 into the PC as a PVR/DVR. I think I'd like to capture Satellite MPEG2 because (1) lossless quality w/o decoding/encoding and (2) takes up less space on HDD.

Do cards exist for this capture with S/W for channel selection and TV timer recording - with remote control, etc.? Dish Network has a firewire connection on their high end DVR which is designated for 'future use'. They are MUM, and offered no help, claiming that knowledge is in the 'back-offce' of their company and the 'front office' has no information.

It shouldn't be this difficult to turn a PC into a Dish/Tivo/Replay-TV DVR!!! If DISH would activate the firewire (or USB) connection for connection to a PC, this would not be an issue. Currently there is no way to transfer captured video to a PC for editing.

Would appreciate info/artlcle links. Seems like this is still bleeding edge. This article was helpful as I've now decided to go with separate function cards rather than a composite card.

Bill
{first post newbie}
[Posted by: Libertywithout  | Date: 02/24/04 07:42:15 AM]

14. 
need a 3demon driver pv951tf conexant fusion 878a
[Posted by: driver  | Date: 03/12/04 03:31:10 AM]

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I just got this item (with fm radio part) & will install on my computer in a week. Does anyone have any experience with this card? Any reactions or advice? Thanks, CW
[Posted by: milly8  | Date: 04/03/04 08:56:53 AM]

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My card is the 3DVision one. Thanks, CW
[Posted by: milly8  | Date: 04/03/04 09:25:33 AM]

17. 
It is great that you would assemble and make available this information. Our hearty thanks. A question: the terms NTSC & ATSC: is the Advanced Television Commity Standard for EDVT sets and the National system for HDTV or both OK for ED or HD - or am I off on the wrong tangent - or why are these terms used? Thanks again Ned
[Posted by: Ned  | Date: 04/10/04 11:50:18 AM]

18. 
You say on page 3 that "The major drawback of any PCI-tuner is a very high workload it puts onto the system CPU and PCI bus..." and "The minimal system requirements for a computer equipped with a TV-tuner include at least a Pentium III 500 processor and at least 128MB of RAM." That's only true for capturing video to disk. I've been using an STB TV-PCI in a 486-class computer with 64MB of memory, using a Cyrix 5x86-120 120MHz CPU, and for viewing TV it works fine. Using a video resolution of 1024x768, tranferring all that video data from the tuner to the video card (Diamond Stealth 3D 2000) ties up the PCI bus fairly solidly, but running TV full-screen and doing nothing else but run the System Monitor, the CPU usage hovers under 10%.

To Comment 6: In the USA at least some cable systems (Comcast here in Northern Virginia) use QAM modulation for digital TV, while USA over-the-air DTV uses 8VSB, so although cable systems use the same cable for analog or digital TV, a DTV tuner card for over-the-air telecasts likely won't receive cable DTV. However, ATI's new HDTV Wonder uses their own NXT2004 decoder chip, which can demodulate both 8VSB and QAM. It remains to be seen when they add a feature to their software to switch to QAM, or when a third party provides the capability, which is in the hardware. Though a combined graphics & TV tuner card such as the ATI All-In-Wonder has the graphics obsolescence problem, using one with their new HDTV Wonder card allows picture-in-picture.

To Comment 17: NTSC stands for National Television Standards Committee and is the USA standard for analog television. ATSC stands for Advanced Television Systems Committee, an international, non-profit organization developing voluntary standards for digital television (see http://www.atsc.org/ for more than you probably wanted to know).
[Posted by: Ferdy  | Date: 04/11/04 02:23:38 AM]

19. 
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[Posted by: zozo36  | Date: 04/27/04 12:55:01 PM]

20. 
Very useful. Am thinking of buying one TV tuner and your comparative article is a very good help. I was initially thinking of Hauppage WinTV-PVR-350 to record to HD directly in mpeg2 -and a bit more pricey-, but you do not even mention it. What are your toughts about this card and its features? Can they also be done either the same or better through third party software?
Which forums should I go to to learn a bit more about this?
Thanks for your work and support
Bernardo
[Posted by: Bernardo Cardozo  | Date: 07/27/04 04:43:41 AM]

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