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Choosing the Best DDR3 SDRAM for Ivy Bridge

**Started by:**beenthere |

**Date**07/06/12 08:49:29 PM

**Comments:**128 |

**Last Comment:**08/25/16 09:12:09 PM

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On the contrary, that's a frame rate where such a difference will be noticeable.

It would be interesting to see some benchmarks on minimal frame rates for games, not averages, because these have a larger effect on feeling of fluidity.

1. WinRar is a real world benchmark and it shows massive gains in their testing.

2. You can find 30nm budget RAM that has been purposely downclocked at lower voltages of 1.35V but really overclocks to 2133-2400mhz without a price premium over 'typical' DDR3-1600 RAM:

SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US

http://www.newegg.com/Pro...aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

or at MicroCenter:

http://www.microcenter.co....phtml?product_id=0380720

Here is a review of that $50 RAM:

http://www.techpowerup.co...s/Samsung/MV-3V4G3/6.html

3. This review shows that faster DDR3 ram is more important than lower timings. That's good knowledge to have for the future since it wasn't like that even for socket 1156 where timings still mattered.

4. You say +/- 3fps doesn't matter. 2-3% here, 2-3% there and next thing you know one system is 15-20% faster than the other. It starts to add up in aggregate.

DDR3-1866/2133 memory is barely more expensive (and as I've shown already can be had for $50 in disguised Green Edition form). No reason at all to buy DDR3-1600 ram for new builders.

5. This review doesn't imply that it's better to spend $ on faster RAM than say buy a faster/larger SSD or a faster videocard. But it shows that overclocking system memory does bring tangible performance increases.

6. If Haswell or Piledriver benefits from more memory bandwidth, DDR3-2133 memory bought today for even $5 more will be worth it. A lot of us like to resell our CPUs and motherboard and upgrade to the latest architecture. For new system builders, this review showed that if they can find DDR3-1866/2167 for similar price to DDR3-1333/1600, definitely get the faster RAM. For people already running DDR3-1600, no urgent need to sell it.

Personally, I would be happy if more programs started to take advantage of faster memory speeds. DDR4 is coming really soon and we'll have even faster memory speeds available.

2. You can find 30nm budget RAM that has been purposely downclocked at lower voltages of 1.35V but really overclocks to 2133-2400mhz without a price premium over 'typical' DDR3-1600 RAM:

SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US

http://www.newegg.com/Pro...aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

or at MicroCenter:

http://www.microcenter.co....phtml?product_id=0380720

Here is a review of that $50 RAM:

http://www.techpowerup.co...s/Samsung/MV-3V4G3/6.html

3. This review shows that faster DDR3 ram is more important than lower timings. That's good knowledge to have for the future since it wasn't like that even for socket 1156 where timings still mattered.

4. You say +/- 3fps doesn't matter. 2-3% here, 2-3% there and next thing you know one system is 15-20% faster than the other. It starts to add up in aggregate.

DDR3-1866/2133 memory is barely more expensive (and as I've shown already can be had for $50 in disguised Green Edition form). No reason at all to buy DDR3-1600 ram for new builders.

5. This review doesn't imply that it's better to spend $ on faster RAM than say buy a faster/larger SSD or a faster videocard. But it shows that overclocking system memory does bring tangible performance increases.

6. If Haswell or Piledriver benefits from more memory bandwidth, DDR3-2133 memory bought today for even $5 more will be worth it. A lot of us like to resell our CPUs and motherboard and upgrade to the latest architecture. For new system builders, this review showed that if they can find DDR3-1866/2167 for similar price to DDR3-1333/1600, definitely get the faster RAM. For people already running DDR3-1600, no urgent need to sell it.

Personally, I would be happy if more programs started to take advantage of faster memory speeds. DDR4 is coming really soon and we'll have even faster memory speeds available.

Higher performance next generation IGPs might get quite a bit more bandwidth hungry and there you will probably benefit from faster RAM quite tangibly. Other than that, I agree.

No one can see +/- 3 FPS @ 35 FPS video rates.

On the contrary, that's a frame rate where such a difference will be noticeable.

It would be interesting to see some benchmarks on minimal frame rates for games, not averages, because these have a larger effect on feeling of fluidity.

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Oh look, it's the "the human eye cannot perceive more than 30 fps" myth again.

Please, do us all a favour and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

Even a blind person can notice a difference between 30 and 60 fps.

Educate yourself:

http://www.significant-bits.com/framerates-do-matter

http://www.100fps.com/how...frames_can_humans_see.htm

P.S.: I don't really care how accurate the rest of your comment is, that piece of FUD alone is enough to make me want to ignore it.

Please, do us all a favour and stop spreading lies and misinformation.

Even a blind person can notice a difference between 30 and 60 fps.

Educate yourself:

http://www.significant-bits.com/framerates-do-matter

http://www.100fps.com/how...frames_can_humans_see.htm

P.S.: I don't really care how accurate the rest of your comment is, that piece of FUD alone is enough to make me want to ignore it.

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Thank you, it's really nice peace of work Before I've read your article I was wondering why there's no CL7 high frequency ddr3 (more than 1600 mhz) modules which at the first step I wanted to have. So now I've got the answer... Once again thank you for enlightening me

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Thank you for the info.

Just what I needed.

Just what I needed.

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Great article! Really provides a reality check and perspective. Now I know where to focus my $$$ better while I build my system.

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