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AMD Unveils First Details About Steamroller: Third-Gen Bulldozer Incoming.

Started by: beenthere | Date 08/29/12 07:51:31 PM
Comments: 53 | Last Comment:  09/22/12 04:34:12 PM

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AMD appears to have some good stuff coming to fruition. If they keep hitting their 15% performance bumps per iteration they will be just fine. I expect that Steamroller will be pulled ahead slightly to allow for newer products to be rolled out sooner than the current AMD roadmap shows.

23 11 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 08/29/12 07:51:31 PM]
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2 5 [Posted by: RtFusion  | Date: 08/29/12 09:31:47 PM]
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Dual 128-bit FPU has more flexibility versus a single 256-bit. And an insider already stated Steamroller Clock for Clock will be about 45% faster than today's Bulldozer with lower power consumption. Excavator coming in 2014 should be another 20% to 30% faster than Steamroller. The insider speculation stated that Excavator will be a highly enhanced Bulldozer, such as a complete overhaul of some of its key components, sticking to the Bulldozer principles, but this time performing the way it was meant to.

Steamroller is the start of this modification.
3 0 [Posted by: nt300  | Date: 09/22/12 02:09:42 PM]
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3 21 [Posted by: Azazel  | Date: 08/29/12 10:34:41 PM]
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We don't actually need another proof. We need a proof.

What you mentioned isn't one.
4 1 [Posted by: sirroman  | Date: 08/30/12 02:38:04 PM]
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5 17 [Posted by: Azazel  | Date: 08/29/12 10:36:28 PM]
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4 18 [Posted by: TAViX  | Date: 08/30/12 12:02:58 AM]
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Still 28 nm? Yawn...that whore is all stretched out. Intel will already be running engineering wafers of 14nm Broadwell by the time Steamroller is out.
4 2 [Posted by: AnonymousGuy  | Date: 08/30/12 12:58:01 AM]
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3 6 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 08/30/12 04:36:29 AM]
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Errr no. You only get thermal runaway on IVB at 4.8 Ghz, and the IPC gains over Sandy Bridge make it so 4.8 Ivy = 5.0 Sandy anyways.
2 3 [Posted by: AnonymousGuy  | Date: 08/30/12 11:39:47 PM]
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IB is still superior to SB on both CPU and GPU side.

What more important, IB has insanely small die size. Quad core + HD4000 is only 160mm^2

Thats almost half die size of bulldozer, despite the fact that IB has GPU and a superior cpu

With 14nm, AMD is going to be at worse situation if they stick with 28nm. AMD won't make lot of profit if they sell a big die size at cheaper or same price as much smaller die sizer
3 4 [Posted by: maroon1  | Date: 08/31/12 03:32:22 AM]
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Intel's 22nm 3D transistor is amazing. If you delid 3570/3770K processors, you get a 20*C drop in temperatures. The problem is the solder between the CPU die and the heat-spreader.

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(at least) 10% clock increase * 30% increased IPC = 43% increase in net performance per core over Bulldozer. Sounds interesting!
3 5 [Posted by: jasmith007  | Date: 08/30/12 01:49:46 AM]
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Sound interesting if it is true

But giving the fact that those are AMD claims, it is highly unlikely



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1 9 [Posted by: AvonX  | Date: 09/01/12 08:36:53 AM]
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AMD needs to correct IPC.
4 6 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 08/30/12 04:37:53 AM]
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Most consumers will be perfectly happy with Piledriver and Steamroller and that's all that really matters.
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3 10 [Posted by: AvonX  | Date: 08/30/12 07:37:21 AM]
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Will the Steamroller run on AM3+ motherboard ? Or they will do an AM4 for this CPU ?
8 2 [Posted by: ojohn  | Date: 08/30/12 10:35:30 AM]
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1 8 [Posted by: Aone  | Date: 08/30/12 09:39:58 PM]
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Hey, don't be a dick. He had a valid question.
7 2 [Posted by: KeyBoardG  | Date: 08/31/12 07:39:56 AM]
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AvonX & jmlxg are the same person , and he is a Troll so ignore him !!!
13 3 [Posted by: ojohn  | Date: 08/31/12 07:25:01 AM]
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AMD is very good at talking these days.

AMD was telling us how good bulldozer was, and they were cherrypicking some benchmarks to show how good bulldozer is.

You can't say that Steamroller is going to be great based on AMD words. Let us wait for unbiased 3rd party reviews.
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3 13 [Posted by: AvonX  | Date: 08/31/12 07:03:39 AM]
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Oh another AMD hater. No one cares about your worthless opinion on the strategy of AMD and it's survival. You probably never even went to business school to make any reasonable contribution to the discussion on its going concern.
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