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AMD FX-Series "Vishera" Microprocessors Available for Pre-Order Online.
The smarter PC reviewers have come to understand that the benches are becoming more bogus all the time as they are influenced by Intel money. You will start seeing more price-point PC testing of real applications once the rest of the PC industry realizes they have been duped by tainted benches favoring Intel.
As always I recommend that people buy what makes them happy. You can vote with your wallet against corporate crime if you buy AMD.
What most consumers care about is system performance not what brand of CPU, what clockspeed, etc. it operates at. I realize some folks base their entire self esteem on owning a particular brand or model CPU, but they need to get a life.
As far as I'm aware, the only tainted benchmarks are by BapCo (SysMark), otherwise most others give a fairly good indication of processor capabilities.
And in fact, various real-world benchmarks actually show AMD to be fairly behind Intel, such as this: -
Also, check this out for real-world gaming performance, which sadly puts AMD to shame: -
Use real apps if you want reality. Af far as games are concerned the eye cannot differentiate true FPS above 30 FPS. So it doesn't matter what the FPS is as long as it's above 30 FPS. The rest is for bragging rights and you pay dearly for something you can't actually use.
It is true that Bulldozer sucks for gaming but for actual multi-tasking, i5 is slower. Alternatively, you'd have to spend $100+ more on an i7 3770k.
FWIW, numerous reviewers already know the performance of Vishera and it is as stated above.
And about heat. My FX4170 overclocked to 4.5Ghz with stock cooler on heavy load reaches 45C.
DD4 is a point-to-point design meaning you must install all the RAM from the get go or replace all the RAM to increase capacity.
point-to-point topology is where each channel in the memory controller is connected to a single DIMM.
it's not just about the speed it's also about the bandwidth and the voltage. One big area DDR4 will help is in mobile devices due to the fact that DDR4 has lower voltage then DDR3 does. So DDR4 isn't just for show it has it'a practicly purpose.
You can't expect a company with 3 billion market cap to have the R&D and manufacturing capabilities to actually beat Intel, right? Let's get real now. Intel is already 1 generation ahead in terms of node and 3D transistor. Even if AMD's engineers design a faster CPU on paper, it will continue to be 1 node behind Intel.
Either way, any improvement is welcome.
Morons with dollar signs in their eyes!
If it wasn't for AMD's head strong CPU design innovations, they would have been finished. AMD really cannot afford to make mistakes whereas Intel can.
By the time Steamroller hits the street, AMD should either be tied or beat Intel's equivalent offerings.
For now Piledriver should be approx: 15% to 20% faster Clock for Clock versus Bulldozer...
Looking at the list above, you can see that even the i5-3570k is behind the FX-8150. The FX-8350 is 5% faster than the 8150 when performing single threaded applications. On multi-threaded apps it is 10% faster than the 8150 and when overclocked it is 15% faster. This is in fact a significant improvement over the 8150. This puts the FX-8350 at 2500k single threaded performance while completely blowing away a 3570k in multi-threaded performance thus putting it at the i7-2600 level without overclocking.
Don't forget that the FX-8150 tied or beat the i7-2600k when both were overclocked to around 4.5ghz in multi-threaded benchmarks but trailed the i5-2500k in single threaded performance by less than 5%.
The FX-8150 is already a heavy multitasking monster compared to even the i7-2600k when performing heavy tasks at the same time.
Another consideration to take is that Windows 7 will never fully support the 8150 or 8350 so some results will prove to be unfavorable. Preliminary benchmarks of the Fx-8150 on Windows 8 show roughly a 5% increase.
With all that said though Intel is still far ahead and has a great product for those willing to spend the extra money.
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