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AMD Introduces Its First Accelerated Processing Unit for Media Tablets.

Started by: scoob | Date 10/09/12 10:27:24 AM
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The key benefits that I see and which makes the AMD Z-60 a better choice for a professional tablet than ARM and/or Intel is that the AMD Z-60 APU is a 64 bit processor, it has a powerful GPU, it has usb 3.0, 1900x1200 resolution, and it can run all Windows professional applications. Sure it consume a little more power, but having a larger GPU always consumes more power, but without a higher performance GPU, you can't run professional applications, high-end games, high-end 3d graphics applications.

Intel's Clober Trail is just a 32 bit CPU processor (same as ARM), small GPU, only 1300x768 rsolution, only 2 GB of processor memory max, and only usb 2.0.

AMD Z-60 nailed the most powerful tablet workstation in the market and the only one that can be used professionally.

Hopefully this will help AMD to continue to turn around it's business and continue to innovate with high end APU's and high-end GPU's.. Very nice AMD..!!!

7 3 [Posted by: scoob  | Date: 10/09/12 10:27:24 AM]
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The nicer windows 8 tablets are comming with core i3 processors, not just atoms. So this isnt the "king" of all options like you make it out to be. Core i3's perform considerable better, and still reach the same approximate power usage at these.

If you read AMD's own statement they said there was a gap between the cheap processors for tablets and the high performance ones, and theyre filling that gap. They are not the highest performance tablet proc...
1 1 [Posted by: cashkennedy  | Date: 10/09/12 02:11:09 PM]
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From what i can find online, a core i5 sandy bridge based tablet uses 7-10w of power total doing hd video playback, vs 5w or more for this amd z-60, and vs 2w for the atom soc. Ivy bridge should be a bit more power conservative then sandy bridge, so a realistic prediction is around 7w for video playback, vs the 5w for amd. Once again that puts AMD right in the middle of the 2 options, which could be the sweet spot, but is deffinetly not the highest performance possible.
3 0 [Posted by: cashkennedy  | Date: 10/09/12 02:31:25 PM]
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I agree. Intel Atom is not good for media - it has weak decoders, cannot play 720p h254 and above, which is the minimum today for media quality. I am not even considering the pro market.
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0 3 [Posted by: cashkennedy  | Date: 10/09/12 02:14:01 PM]
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Core i3/5 is just way too much for a tablet, both the power consumption and the performance is overboard. It's like shooting at a sparrow with a bigass canon.
The weak spot of this thing is that low-budget consumer will keep hunting for the cheapest ARM/Android tablets, while manufacturers are going to try to sell the overpriced Intel Core equiped crap to thick-wallet snobs. (which is a double fail since (globally) they are not too many and most of them think an iPad will make them cool) People who actually need a tablet for some reason and look for the golden middle (Z-60) do represent an extremely insignificant portion of the market.
2 1 [Posted by: Martian  | Date: 10/09/12 02:45:28 PM]
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I agree that the majority of the market is probably either looking for a super cheap tablet (comparable to nook), or just figured well if im already spending 450 i might as well get an ipad... Most people are dumb , but the world is what it is. The whole ultrabook kick from manufacturers will also end fairly soon, because while each oem should have 1-2 ultrabooks, theyre insanely making like 4-6 models per company, for a tiny sliver of a market.
3 0 [Posted by: cashkennedy  | Date: 10/09/12 04:21:57 PM]
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Intel may beat AMD in CPU's, but AMD beats the cr@p out of Intel in GPU's. Intel doesn't even have a high end GPU, it just have low end GPU's.

These are tablets, so you cannot add an NVIDIA or an AMD GPU to make the Intel system a high performance system. Now it can only use the Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge GPU which are mediocre and below NVIDIA's or AMD's offering.

Price, too, Intel likes to always make a big profit slice of each processor. Tablet people know that they don't need to pay high profit margins if they have an option for a quality system.
1 0 [Posted by: scoob  | Date: 10/10/12 07:03:19 AM]
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I will be getting this

Just A Few Advantages Over Competition.

USB 3.0 - mSATA, X86 - X64-Bit, 1080p, Full Win7/8 or Win-RT support and DX11 GPU etc etc, is a no brainer over intel and Tegra 3.


Qualcomm will put up a fight but we shall see to what effect.
1 0 [Posted by: keysplayer  | Date: 10/09/12 11:04:54 AM]
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AMD counter offensive .
2 1 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 10/09/12 01:46:01 PM]
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1 6 [Posted by: alpha0ne  | Date: 10/10/12 12:50:38 AM]
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The market at which this is aimed is neither in Europe or North America. There are far greater populations and buyer numbers in the Asian/African market were to generate sales costs far less than in the mature declining western markets. Think what it cost to employ a sales person in America as to what the same sales person would be paid in South East Asia,( Not an expat from head office but a local) The number of potential customers is at least 10x more than is the western markets, even the Russian or Turkish market dwarf the rest of Europe. It takes some getting used to but the buying power of consumers has shifted and woe betide any co which ignores these markets.
1 1 [Posted by: tedstoy  | Date: 10/10/12 03:03:34 AM]
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I agree tedstoy. Two different markets - first world and second world. First world sees higher profit margins and the second world sees higher volumes with lower profit margins. Intel is primarily a first world chip company. AMD has equal footing in both. The second world market is expanding at +15% per year. That's where AMD is growing. There's no coincidence that AMD employed Rory Read as CEO, who had a 5 year tenure at Lenovo, China.
3 1 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 10/10/12 03:50:51 AM]
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This might fight nicely into the jointly developed Tablet by Samsung and Google, it needs an APU to take advantage of the screen resolution.
0 0 [Posted by: caring1  | Date: 10/11/12 02:19:01 AM]
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