maroon1: i use [adequate] quad-core explicitly for several reasons, not least the fact that im not the one that needs convincing that current Intel Integer SIMD is far better than the AMD's brand new Integer x2 blocks in the latest cores, clearly it is given x264 remarks and proof based on devs comments etc.

and in that vain , ill also point out that "High Efficiency Video Coding draft video compression standard, a successor to H.264/MPEG-4 AVC (Advanced Video Coding)" is due to be ratified by the end of 2013 i think is the rough timeline.

and the fact the x264 dev's have looked at and evaluated it stating....
basically paraphrased: it's going to take a massive load of new CPU cycles accommodating the new algorithm's for even 1080P encoding/decoding never mind the 4K and 8K video "Main 10 profile" (allows for a bit depth of 8-bits to 10-bits per color)

so that means it will have to be a very good [adequate] quad-core to ffmpeg/VLC etc software playback full HEVC 4K video, and more likely at least a Hex or better Octo core mobile SOC to actually re-encode to the visual quality you have come to expect from x264 at near real time.

all these people that keep saying "Quad core is enough processing power" are in for a bit of a shock when they try to decode never mind actually Encode highest quality HEVC video at full Mbit/s on their 3 year old QUAD PC.

sure, there maybe 4K/8K hardware assisted encode/decode blocks in Intel SOC by then, and unlikely based on past experience a real cross platform AMD encode hardware assisted code block option, and you still loose visual quality with those HW blocks.

Maybe for you CPU power is all that matters, on my side I don't want to get screwed up by the crappy IGP in SB or the lack of support of graphics drivers in general, nor to get my battery drained by a dGPU powerplant.

Martian, i don't quite follow you there !

GSUBTC "Integrated graphics processors (IGP)" in sandy bridge , well if you don't already have the older Intel core ( i can only assume you don't here)
then you have the option to use the current Ivy bridge and its separate more efficient Ivy Bridge direct interconnect rather than the usual PCI-E that external discrete Graphics Processors use.

http://semiaccurate.com/2...ll-cpu-more-details-leak/
clearly indicates that future Intel cores + internal gfx where HEVC will arrive in that time frame are getting a much improved throughput in the gfx area's.

and again i don't follow when you say "lack of support of graphics drivers in general"

taking a look at the usual OSS drivers lists it seems clear Intel are ahead on the features actually implemented there
http://www.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver with far more "Done"

http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix quite a few "TODO's" theres but thats not really surprising given the lack of openness in NV's part so far.

and finally
http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature seems a shame AMD cant seem to get OSS S.Islands drivers even half finished after a year with massive "TODO's" there.

so its not like there are no better HW and SW options for 2013/14 timeline in the Intel pipeline, the AMD OSS manager doesn't hold much hope for fast improvements on that latest southern islands HW front, matching semiaccurate's view on the windows side, maybe im missing something official you know and can point me to ?

and i do assume you actually want to watch HEVC video at full speed when it arrives, how do you intend doing that with today's/the next AMD Notebook kit.

i like enough CPU power to actually work as specified and watching the new HEVC video seems like a generic thing must end consumers would want to do in 2013/14 etc even when mobile, and a good proportion would want to re-encode (preferably in real time or better) their own content too.

Let's make it clear first, I answered the same comment you did, not yours.
Other than that, Intel abandones everything after a year, except those things (Atom's PowerVR IGPs) they haven't ever supported.
I really don't know what do you want with Linux support, which is even worse then Windows support on both sides and not even official on Intel's.
I plan on using my laptop for more than a year, so Intel is not an option for me, I'm fine with a 2-4x faster Radeon IGP which is going to have mainline support for another 2-3 years.

You can't be more wrong in that comparison,
you are comparing 2 35W units, with the apu bearing the weight of a fairly good gpu that draws a bigger portion power than that weak hd3000.
[sarcasm]you know what could be better? a cpu without any gpu onboard.[/sarcasm]
in addition in the apu you get full support for dx,openGL,glsl,openCL apis and a decent driver in windows and a relatively good in linux(although fglrx needs more developement)
and for that iGP you don't get any openCL http://software.intel.com...encl-release-notes/#2(you get opencl only through simd, which means only the cpu supports it) and the rest are not so stable, who can forget the compatibility lists of supported games in the igps

here are the benchmark facts which compare 3770k and fx8350 with an unbiased compiler/suite http://openbenchmarking.o...lt/1210227-RA-AMDFX835085
we are not 11 anymore to compare clocks.

"And 3770 is overall much better processors given its vast advantage in single to quad threaded tasks."

FX8350 costs $195
i7-3770K costs $325

In fact, a smart purchaser who wants a good multi-threaded CPU will save some $ and grab the $169 FX8320 and overclock it. Then you have $156 left over for a nice SSD. FX8320 + 128GB SSD will crush i7 3770K with a mechanical drive. Oh, I forgot you ignored price in your comparison...

Your comparison is misleading. FX8350 competes with i5-3570K not 3770K. AMD has no competitor to i7.

BestJinjo, while thats nice, the thread subject matter is
"Quad_Core_Microprocessors_to_Dominate_Notebooks_in_2016"

Not "Workstation-Class Hardware"
in the case of the strictly Workstation-Class Vishera FX8350 with it's "Integrated graphics processor (IGP)" removed so not much chance it will ever be used in a Notebook at any price.

The phantom down voter is Avon the coward troll, no doubt. He must leave this site and find a real job like sweeping streets. Maybe he'll then get a reference to apply for his dream job - cleaning the restrooms at Intel HQ.

I don't downvote people because they have different opinions.

Ever heard of AMD Phenom II X6?

mganai,given the thread subject matter is
"Quad_Core_Microprocessors_to_Dominate_Notebooks_in_2016"

and assuming you are referring to this

"through the use of quad-core microprocessors will play a critical role in PC makers’ efforts to remain competitive amid the onslaught of media tablets and smartphones,” said Peter Lin"

in your interpretation, then define PC..

(just run with this thought for a minute)

that PC meaning would be the definitive initials for "Personal Computer" and you cant get more personal than an ARM Cortex device you currently carry around in your pocket every where you go and wont let others borrow as it's that personal to you.

"desktop" PC doesn't really come into it given the "Notebook" context, but then again lets run with it,

does a device sat "ON" or under your desk count, perhaps.

such as a http://trimslice.com/web/,
how about the usual celeron or AMD Via Geode low power device running OSS , are they a PC, sure.

or how about the HEX core ARM Toshiba TV potentially sat on your desk right now.
http://www.electronicswee...e-ARM-A9-TV-processor.htm
now your getting murky
put this Hex core in a new open OSS trimslice type device, is that then a PC,sure

theres also the GeForce Maxwell fit's in the murky territory here as they will also have many Arm cortex cores included as part of the gfx core cluster on SOC not the CPU side of the bus, its not clear if they will also include the generic NEON (integer) SIMD in that section , but if so that to looks interesting, IF they Do It Right...

for sure all the vendor's that use ARM, MediaTek, Qualcomm, Samsung and TI etc, under the "heterogeneous system alliance" (HSA) banner, all have 6 and/or 8 real core designs waiting in the pipeline
(just wait and see around Jan/Feb 2013, i cant obviously link you a URL yet OC other than the MediaTek and networking vendors you already know about now)
and the current quads can do 2K decode in hardware for video so getting closer to that new HEVC generic video playback at least until that Samsung Octo core Mali T6xx GFX arrives in products you can buy etc.

and OC we already know AMD will provide some clustered Cortex in their offerings by 2014 and if their HSA partners are doing mass produced generic $20 a pop 6 and 8+ cores by the end of 2014 then they are not going to just (well it is AMD so they might...) sell you less core in their SOC offerings.

Oh and remember it would only take one so called "mainstream" Motherboard vendor to put one or [preferably] more of these multi core Cortex [64bit] SOC in a reasonably priced board and you would probably get a mass of others following suit if its profitable...and grows the new markets.

don't you find it interesting that ARM cortex has gone from "mono phones" to "dual core phones and tablets" to main stream "quad core phones,tablets and direct to alpha test 32bit Co-Location servers to try and buy as a precursor for real many core 64bit" in a relatively short time frame

and theres this obvious big gap in the global market right where one would want to buy a "many core" 64bit ARM cortex thats just screaming to be filled by a vendor for mass profit's ... you [the reader] don't actually believe Vendors just missed that by accident..
so don't be surprised when it happens

"beenthere:Windoze requires a 4x increase in CPU performance just to run"

windows 8 didn't , in fact pretty much static hence why the Motherboard vendors and OEM's cant seem to sell many as upgrades this holiday season without a lot of free extra's or discount's to the consumer cutting into their profits, but thats mostly beside the point in this Notebooks thread.

Moore's Law + May's Law run's in parallel here OC, except apparently with this latest ARM Cortex as its ramping up quicker than mores law ATM with fast transitions through mono>dual>quad>hex/octo sooner rather than later helping May's Law to balance things out in these new markets.

Moore's Law: states that processor speeds, or overall processing power for computers will double every two years.

May's Law: states that Software efficiency halves every 18 months, compensating Moore's Law.