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Intel: Transition to 450mm Will Terminate Half of Semiconductor Market Players.

Started by: linuxlowdown | Date 12/10/12 01:30:03 AM
Comments: 11 | Last Comment:  12/12/12 04:11:25 PM

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Otellini Godfather subtext: We want to scare you out of investing in our competitors. If you don't follow our advice or if you're still unsure, then our Intel mafia "sales" reps will pay you a personal visit.
22 4 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 12/10/12 01:30:03 AM]
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If you looked into 300-450 transition you would understand why so happens. The cost is way too high for many manufacturers. Same happened when chipmakers were transitioning from 200 to 300 mm wafers.

So it is a mere observation that can be confirmed by anyone who is working in the field.

Here are some works with data to backup it.
3 0 [Posted by: PsiAmp  | Date: 12/10/12 05:53:56 AM]

EUV face delays after delays, and will not be raedy before 2020. Of course, Intel traditionally will begin production in 2018 on beta tools, and sell these experimental chips from 3% yeld, just to tell whole word 'we are first'.
Change to 450 nm has nothing common with chip design. Using 450mm will be gradually and limited, as with today 300 mm. Smaller 200mm wafers are stil in production.
Smaller design teams are leaving market CONSTANTLY, not because problems with production, but because increasing chip integration. Who want today buy separate sound or network card, for example ?
Otellini talk is clear BS.
4 1 [Posted by: Tristan  | Date: 12/10/12 05:05:34 AM]

Nothing new here, Intel has always strived to create a monopoly environment. Their shady business practices are well documented. I encourage everyone to support AMD and the other players in the market to keep them in check.
7 2 [Posted by: DKizzy  | Date: 12/10/12 05:18:41 AM]
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2 9 [Posted by: JanGozi  | Date: 12/10/12 05:46:16 AM]

That photo is my new wallpaper.
1 2 [Posted by: qubit  | Date: 12/10/12 11:19:31 AM]

Anyone who thinks the 450mm transition is going to get rid of all competition for Intel isn't in sync with the industry. TSMC, Samsung, and Globalfoundries are also on-board. The fact that these other manufacturers are also making ARM processors for the industry means Intel's competition will be neck-and-neck with them. There's a good article describing the battle that will ensue at:
2 0 [Posted by: neodigm  | Date: 12/10/12 12:42:23 PM]

Chipmakers 2011 capabilities ranked:
1 0 [Posted by: T9000  | Date: 12/10/12 01:19:31 PM]

The Haswell processor naming confirm 13 processor will be listed in the first launch wave:

Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4ghz (3.8 Turbo) 84W TDP = i5-3570K successor
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5ghz (3.9 Turbo) 84W TDP = i7-3770K successor

Expected launch date April 2013.
12 5 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 12/11/12 11:46:46 AM]


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