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AMD Blasts Intel Atom Chips for Micro-Servers.

Started by: 789 | Date 12/12/12 01:02:18 PM
Comments: 10 | Last Comment:  12/14/12 07:36:54 AM

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OK, the word "completely" is an absolute. Even one design win invalidates that.

Second, it's obvious this is coming from the SeaMicro part of AMD, and they are upset with Intel because Intel's consistent and persistent failures with Atom have caused problems for them.

Atom is a perfect example for anyone who thinks Intel can dominate any market they choose to be in. So far, all they do is fail with this chip.

Try buying a low-power Mini-ITX motherboard. For AMD, they got good chips (E2-1800), but you can't get a motherboard. Great job there, AMD. Intel, you can get motherboards, but even if you're willing to put up with the low performance of Atom, you can't use 64-bit Windows with their newest chips.

They've failed in tablets, they've failed in phones. The Atom is a chip that takes too much power for these devices, and is too slow for a real computer. It's failed.

Bobcat/Jaguar is clearly the better product, but AMD hasn't capitalized on it, and outside of Zotac, it's almost impossible to get it on anything but a laptop.

Both are screwing up, just in different ways.
11 0 [Posted by: TA152H  | Date: 12/12/12 01:09:02 PM]
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The Atom chip Z2460 consume less power than most of the ARM variants (include tegra 3 , snapdragon and exynos), please read reviews before comment.

And the S1200 is significant because it gonna be the first sub 10 w chip used in COMMERCIAL micro-servers.

The AMD Bobcat is great chip but it lack features to be used in servers. The EXC-1000 is still just a testing platform for all the venders to exploring the possibility of using a ARM server. So far no committing yet
0 2 [Posted by: wsw1982  | Date: 12/14/12 07:34:21 AM]
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Hey look, Intel struck AMD's nerve. AMD what are you going to do about it. Introduce something next year, like early next year in January. Facebook is high volume customer that AMD wanted and then Intel got the deal. Like I said in comments in other articles, AMD needs to take risks and hurry their damn ass to make products that competes at the same level as Intel.
6 0 [Posted by: tecknurd  | Date: 12/12/12 02:13:43 PM]
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This is an AMD tradition. It's tongue in cheek. Unlike Avon's trolling.
6 3 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 12/13/12 01:12:00 AM]
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Intel releases products. AMD releases talks and slides, but no one want to pay for it.
2 4 [Posted by: Tristan  | Date: 12/13/12 01:50:58 AM]
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Intel ignored SeaMicro? Wrong. SeaMicro got the main entrance exhibit hall space at IDF 2011, and was mentioned in keynotes.

Yes, Intel is behind in low-end/low watt chips. But they sure are catching up with a vengeance.

Entering 2014, SeaMicro will be a tiny gnat as big, well-known, server companies enter the microserver market.

The microserver market in 2014 will be a shoot-out between slimmer Atom and fatter ARM. I'd give early handicappers an ARM advantage due to the ability to put $20 (2014) ARM high-volume smartphone chips into microservers versus higher cost, higher margin Atom chips from Intel.
2 3 [Posted by: Catalina588  | Date: 12/13/12 07:24:18 AM]
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The ARM server chip is really anything but cheap, the EXC-1000 is 59$ per chip. The HP ARM server is 1.2 million for 1600 nodes (sockets?) * 4 EXC-1000
0 1 [Posted by: wsw1982  | Date: 12/14/12 07:36:54 AM]
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Where the fuck are 5-bay micro-servers based on Fusion, AMD? Comal would make an excellent microserver, yet you can't seem to get a single person willing to step up and make one for you.

I hate how bad AMD is at selling their kit. Products AMD has made possible then barely or never delivered: 6 output Eyefinity laptops, ultrabook competitors, microservers, thin bezel displays for eyefinity... the list goes on and on. AMD keeps making really solid tech, but never getting good solid products into consumers hands. Of course they're ailing, they never sell the stuff they talk up.
6 0 [Posted by: rektide  | Date: 12/13/12 02:35:50 PM]
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Oh AMD: your Fusion chips not only don't have micro-server design wins, they don't have ECC either. Way to get your ass kicked by the class wimp, here played by Intel.
1 3 [Posted by: rektide  | Date: 12/13/12 02:44:52 PM]
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Way to go AMD! Another all talk no action rant from one of your own. So will you hype up the SeaMicro products for 6 years just like the ATI acquisition before the first product ever sees the light of day? Why is it every time you acquire a great company it takes forever for you to get the first product out? Years later after the ATI acquisition you have massive debt from it still, even your newest FUSION APU has a super SUCK ASS memory controller!!! How many years and or decades will go by before you fix your HIGH LATENCY memory controllers in all your processors?? I've been an AMD fan / follower since the AMD 80386 days, but I'm really upset with the management screw ups time and time again. The best CPU's you had were headed by the DEC Alpha design team. Oh hey management, lets get rid of those guys!!! FAIL!!!
1 0 [Posted by: BigE_GA  | Date: 12/14/12 03:31:12 AM]
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