Its incredibly funny they think they can put a good spin on ceasing to develop better products, or stagnation of process technology.

And the efficiency of very precisely tailoring units to 1 process is quickly overcome by the efficiency of just shrinking everything 30%. > and when they have to finally make the jump to the lower process node they will still have to spend another product generation to reach the maximum efficiency for that node.

With high end processors representing less than 6% of the market x86; and as Goldman Sacks says the % of Windows computing devices falling to below 20% of the computing market' This in turn means that the x86 chips are now down to this level as well. There is very little incentive to make newer or higher powered/preforming chips as there is nothing to use them. The bulk of applications which rely on Windows are happy on 4 to 5 year old hardware, Even Win 8 runs happily on 5 year old hardware. The users of Cad etc. are still happy with their 5 year old work stations.

The smaller the nm die size on a node gets the harder it is to produce and the hotter it gets. I see it coming to a point where all semi-conductor companies are going to drasticly slow down in the die shrink process in the next 5 years, due to the fact that they have two major issues that they will end up having to face when the die size gets under the 14nm range and that is it will become a lot harder to pack in a billion + transistors in such a small die and the chips will become a lot hotter because you are packing in soo many transistors into such a small die space. An small indication of that already is ivy bridge on 22nm and the heat concerns will get greater and greater the more transistors they pack into the chip as the die continues to shrink. These are the problems that the semi-conductor industry will have to face and until they can figure out a away to fix these two major concerns then the industry will be at a stalemate with 14nm until they get those two major concerns addressed that will allow them to continue to shrink the die even smaller.

So DAMN is preaching what their sharky friends in Globalfoundries are telling them to say. Glofo cheaply bought off factories around the world monopolizing the market and now they feel safe to ask for government grants "to invest" *our money*, not theirs as obliged to, into technology while the rest sinking into their private pockets

AMD if you wish to stay competitive you cant shark small customers aka. PC desktops, by favorizing big ones at the same time. And write off lawsuit winnings against Intel with 30% success in paying back lost interest just because you needed money desperately (Y2k9) And at the same time you deliberately decided to put on hold your Bulldozer release for two whole years. Hm, how convenient.

So we ended up with one uncompetitive firm while at the same time Intel paid out those settlement they pay to DAMN (is it yet paid in full at all) with insane desktop chip pricing ... And what's the best thing piplz still buying that. (Intel overprized crap) When they have no other choice. So this more and more resembles to VIA and how Intel kill them with their inferior product aka. Atom but peoples stupid blindness is unforseeable and without limits.

Currently the only benefit to smaller nodes is power reduction. Since most CPUs don't have a need for ULV, there is no big advantage to a smaller node other than for ULV. 28nm can currently deliver the needs for desktop and servers without any issues.

"However, a recent roadmap shows that the company plans to rely on 28nm fabrication process even in late 2014, when it launches its next-generation high-performance FX-series processors for desktops and new Opteron products for servers. I think we showed with our Brazos processors that were on 40nm for a long time and we competed very effectively with other products on the market that were two nodes ahead of us. We could sell at a nice cost profile and the functionality that the consumer wants today. "

Here you go for the 10th time AMD's management tells publicly they are not interested in competing with Intel in the high-end CPU race. And people still expect them to do so? They just admitted again they are targeting cost conscious consumers and plan to use 28nm for next generation FX CPUs.

Avon/789/1234/Bro et al., please don't come back in 2013 and 2014 and tell everyone how AMD is failing and can't compete when AMD admitted it's not even their strategy in 2012.

I just hope this doesn't affect their GPUs. If they still release HD9000 series on 28nm node, they'll be uncompetitive against 20nm Maxwell. Unlike NV fanboys who continued to buy slow and power hungry 40nm Fermi cards (GTX550/560/560Ti/570/580) when AMD had 28nm 7750-7870 series out already in the under $350 price level, AMD buyers aren't brainwashed enough to buy 28nm discrete GPU's in 2014 if the competitor already has 20nm ones out. In the GPU space, the node matters a heck of a lot more since GPUs are way more power hungry and pack a lot more transistors, where node shrinks are critical for exponentially increasing GPU performance by achieving higher transistor count/density and lowering leakage.

This means we will have 28nm until GF reaches 14nm.
On the other hand the GPU-s will get whatever TSMC has best.
So there are 2.
FX CPU-s with 28 nm will reach 5Ghz stock no doubt about it.
The APU-s on 28 nm will be beasts for the money payed.

another pathetic excuse for being fabless! AMD is just putting a spin at being at the mercy of the now-complacent GloFo!!