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AMD Not Interested in Google Android Tablets, Will Stick to Windows 8.
in reality, i think this is pretty sure thing for amd - something as big as M$ can't disappear - i may not like them and they are bastards, but some large customers - say, companies who buy licenses by thousands, will never switch to some shiny-happy-tablet based on *some company* cpu which is refreshed every 2 months, powered by free or paid 3$ software - but it can easily decide to add M$ tablets with M$ support and M$ software to arsenal...
The reason to why AMD is saying this is because they have nothing to offer for the android market anyway. The dreams and expectations "i would rather say hallucinations" of AMD's CEO that he could all of a sudden turn a company around into doing very different things than what it was used to do in a short period of time was completely off of understanding what it needs to be done in order to achieve that. It takes years to get there and "not just a year of time". Other companies have specifically worked and designed this kind of processors for years for the android market.
And i would agree with many things that has been said from "TA152H" at the bottom.
google is primary advertisement-based company. they don't mind OS on which is their web-based software run, as long as it still support advertisements (look at google maps and iOS)
apple is much more hardware-dependent, but face this - they are consumer orientated and not business-orientated
perhaps someone will remember, what it used to be like when IBM produced PCs? the trio ibm-ms-intel was at the heart of things, until ibm left pc business (probably a wise decision - margin of profit, once again - they wouldn't go head-to-head with low-profit companies which took over PC market)
ms/intel were alone in business segment fighting APPLE/MOTOROLA. motorola 680x0 CPUs were in many cases superior to x86 counterparts, but motorola was defeated by raw intel power - mostly expressed to higher frequency (oh, yes, the first incarnation of RISC also appeared in that decade, and it was prophesied for the first time that demise of CISC is imminent )
anyway, apple was left on low part on business segment, despite high professional value of mas software (adobe, and many other graphic oriented companies were considering mac a platform of choice). rest is history - apple was forced to adopt intel (and other independent hardware - at first they used to enforce mac-only peripherals which were - guess - MUCH higher in cost)
what's the point of this? inferior platform with inferior OS won 80% business market because of x86 SOFTWARE LEGACY AND BACKWARD COMPATIBiLITY - huge leftover of x86 software running on DOS/WINDOWS is still here. why linux never defeated windows or even came close by? x86 SOFTWARE LEGACY.
see the pattern? in business, and alot in PC-gaming (which is far from dying yet), MS is staying alive, and practically a leader.
whole i-something apple success is consumer-based - a platform with no legacy software (phone, tablet) is appealing to consumer. to business, its worth is exactly zero. oh, sure, we may buy iphone cause it looks nice, but using it for other than phoning or sending mail?! blasphemy! windows-based tablets, however, have usability - in line with desktop-laptop-tablet evolution.
consider this - would laptops ever reached such popularity if they didn't rely on existing software base? and had instead some '100k of x-store applications of dubious origin'? nope.
beside - where did you typed this response? on android platform? or on desktop/laptop? running what OS?
true, ms is going for part of consumer space - and they going to be one, despite what you think or like, cause consumer/business segments are interwoven, and if they chose AMD as partner for it (probably for lower profit margin, but both in tablets and gaming consoles, nevertheless), then AMD is here to stay for a while
people have to understand that basically no big player in market isn't willing to left monopoly to one company (yes, no google, no apple, no intel, no ms - last one being taken care of, remember it former might and arrogance)
amd having no mobile phone offer? irrelevant, what, do they have to? they don't have high-segment cpu either
You know who is going to win right?
Its Linux and its about time they show their teeth. Windows has no place in the mobile and tablet market. They suck.
MS is just greedy and they just want it all but you cant have it all. Android is ready to take it to the next level now since much better processors are coming out this year for the android market. I listen about 8 cores now.
NVIDIA is releasing Tegra code, thus improving Linux support.
They don't have a solution for the 20$ ~ 40$ price range and they're in no hurry to get there right now. Maybe next year they will, but now, the 400$ to 1200$ range is the one they can address with their current product line.
On the other hand, it is very good that this range coincides with the sector that brings the highest margins and a very "top of the line" marketing image.
The company can even use this to build a market image where AMD tablets are powerful solutions, not pocket facebook assistants like most of the cheaper tablets actually are.
I wish them luck and I also wish they eventually bring to the market competition for the 150 $ ~ 400 $ price range.
It's always nice to put a spin on something to make it sound positive, but it only makes sense for the weak minded.
Remember AMD having to pay GloFo lots of money because wanted out of the contract to buy a lot of wafers? Guess what, low margin products still use silicon.
Clearly, AMD would love to sell into this market, but can't. A company in a death spiral isn't going to turn away any profits and/or relationships with OEMs unless they have no way to manage it.
Furthermore, turning away a much more accepted OS, to one that has much less market share and market penetration isn't a great idea unless there are very good reasons.
In short, AMD can't play in that game, so they aren't. In the future, they may, but with so much going on, and with the death spiral underway, they simply are too weak to tackle everything. Stuff like this gets disposed of for lack of resources, while they focus on areas that they can, while hoping success in some area can break them out of the spiral, and allow them to grow again, and have more resources to work on projects like this.
Hopefully Jaguar will break them out of the death spiral before it's too late. It's a great product, and could. If not, constantly bleeding cash, and cutting resources leads to more of the same, and AMD will be in deep trouble.
AMD has the products to turn things around in 2013, but if they don't, it's hard to see anything good happening beyond that. Their product portfolio will improve too slowly if they can't acquire more resources, and they can't acquire more resources if they keep losing money.
You seem to have guessed what that is. Yes there are very good reasons. More of it will be become obvious in the coming months.
Btw. read the entire interview, it's completely fabricated the line "We Will Not Support Google Android with Our Chips" it's not in there.
"AMD Not Interested in Google Android Tablets, Will Stick to Windows 8.
AMD: We Will Not Support Google Android with Our Chips"
you successfully found confirmation that amd-based android tablet is at hand???
Windows based tablets suck anyway. They have allot of issues. At least for now.
My personal opinion that Microsofts attempt to get into the tablet and mobile market was a total failure.
intel is major player in cpu arena, no doubt, and as such, is too valuable for ms to simply ignore it or buyout amd. mainstream desktop/laptop market will be still mainly ruled by intel and ms will never ignore that fact - high power/profit segment goes to intel, low to amd
but interesting thing is another rumour - xbox720 - suppposedly 8-CORE amd and amd graphics. and based on windows kernel. this means windows kernel (suppose future kernel, like win9) will be FAR better optimized for multicore (amd version of it) and OpenCL than it is now - it's kinda stupid to leave all OpenCL/HSA power unused. in the end, it may come that ati acquisition finally start to pay off, few applications that actually use it have hefty benefits - well, at least to same with OpenCL disabled
having "dormant" gpu-power unleashed (and not only amd, i'm talking about whole HSA group) could change computing for the better...
still, ms is software company, drawing most of profit from OS/OFFICE, and spreading around to web and gaming. they need platforms for selling windows/office and, though Joe Average buys OS, he doesn't actually need office, especially more expensive packages (also true for OS)
apple is mostly consumer product company, and their wish for own mobile device cpus - i currently draw line here - is out of safety. they need large volumes, and can't allow to be dependent of one supplier (to avoid 'samsung scenario'). they can't be a high-end x86 market as a cpu producer, besides imac seem to be of less and less importance every year
those are my views, anyway
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