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Sales of PlayStation 4, Xbox Next to Hit Around 5 Million in Total in 2013.

Started by: beenthere | Date 03/20/13 02:34:47 PM
Comments: 13 | Last Comment:  03/26/13 11:13:37 AM

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Sales of an additional 5 million AMD APUs in '13 should help things nicely.
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0 3 [Posted by: tedstoy  | Date: 03/20/13 07:10:15 PM]
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5 million of total console sales of 720 and PS4 is wishful thinking in 2013, especially if they launch before the big holiday/Xmas season? It's more like a conservative estimate if anything. AMD already projected that at least 20% of their revenue in Q4 2013 will come from IPs. The number will likely be even greater than Macquarie is estimating. There is a lot of pent-up demand for next gen consoles. Since Wii U wasn't truly a next gen console (hardware or graphics wise), many people are saving money now for PS4/720.
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A 288 million dollar profit alone won't be enough to get AMD out of the red considering the billions of dollars in lost revenues that they lost in the past 7 years, but it's a good start in the right direction.
4 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 03/20/13 09:51:29 PM]
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That's right SteelCity. The console/ gaming market isn't going to be enough to turn this company back to gold. It needs to get its chips into other things. Hence it is branching out into the embedded market. I can foresee a move into next gen 4k TVs, a market far bigger than consoles. It will also look toward the automotive industry where cars will increasing employ advanced preemptive safety systems. The medical industry is another. These are markets as big as tablets and phones.
2 2 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 03/21/13 12:29:17 AM]
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It's not profit - it's revenue. Revenue is the total AMD got from MS/Sony, profit is the bit left over after AMD pay all the costs to build the chips and that is probably very small - guestimate 10% so that would be 28.8 million profit. Then that 29 million is going to be paying for all the R+D work AMD had to do designing the chips for the consoles. That will take several years probably, only after that does AMD really start to make money from this.
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It's revenue, not profit.
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1 4 [Posted by: Tristan  | Date: 03/21/13 03:23:50 AM]
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Not when you sell in volume. For goodness sake, businesses can't do business ripping each other off. Costs are properly negotiated to be a win-win.
2 2 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 03/21/13 05:18:42 AM]
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Yeah, win-win. Do you remember NV-M$ frictions about first XBOX GPU price ?
0 1 [Posted by: Tristan  | Date: 03/21/13 08:40:29 AM]
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You don't know the gross margins on the PS4 chip. Hence your conclusion The analysts have no clue really, like usual.
2 1 [Posted by: vanakkuty  | Date: 03/21/13 08:07:09 AM]
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People keep estimating profits or costs on license fees, whereas AMD will get paid for each chip it churns out. The ones it can`t sell to Sony and MS, it will sell on the desktop market etc. The Chip will sell for at least $100 based on A10 Trinity+ Volume price ($70 approx to make say), that still leaves AMD with $30 <Approx> profit for each chip, If 5 Million sell in 2013 (Thats 150 Million profit).

AMD have always made good profits on its APU line, I don`t see why it will be any different.
1 1 [Posted by: keysplayer  | Date: 03/21/13 08:31:43 AM]
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Speculations. Just look at the sales of PSP Vita and Wii U...
0 2 [Posted by: TAViX  | Date: 03/21/13 08:34:40 AM]
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