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First Photo of Intel Core i7 “Haswell” with High-Performance HD Graphics 5200 Leaks to Web.

Started by: loadwick | Date 04/18/13 04:34:31 AM
Comments: 5 | Last Comment:  04/24/13 02:44:30 AM

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Please can you confirm that the HD Graphics 5100/5000 is coming to the LGA desktop market as everything I have read so far says the normal desktop market won't get the 5000 series and will have to make do with the 20 execution unit versions.
1 0 [Posted by: loadwick  | Date: 04/18/13 04:34:31 AM]
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40 Execution Units GT3e is not coming to the desktop in LGA form, only in BGA form. Regardless that level of performance will still trail Trinity and Trinity itself is too slow for modern gaming to be honest. Intel is still 3-4 generations behind from being able to play modern games on its APUs. Worse, games will get even more intensive in the next 2-3 years as PS4/Xbox next drop and demands on GPUs will rise exponentially as that always happens once next gen consoles launch. Next gen games like Witcher 3 will mop the floor with Haswell's graphics.
0 1 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 04/19/13 04:36:27 AM]
Sure, I appreciate Intel is behind AMD on gaming performance but I would never use these to do any kind of gaming. I was thinking much more of OpenCL performance and I would expect that to be much better with 40 APUs over just 20.
I have not seen any good OpenCL comparisons between Intel APUs and AMDs APUs and also with how these compare to a decent discrete graphics card from AMD or nVidia but not in artificial synthetic benchmarks but in real world software like WinZip, Adobe and Handbrake. I know a real graphics card would have much greater potential than the tiny APUs on the processor but I don't believe there is much software out there that uses OpenCL and still isn't CPU limited. From what I understand, although GPGPUs has the ability to be so much faster than a CPU there just isn't much software out there that can or certainly is able to take advantage of this power so even OpenCL software like Handbrake will still be CPU limited for a long time to come.

I am fairly sure there won't be an LGA desktop chip with the full 40 APUs. I am not talking about the GT3e I am talking any GT3 series.


0 0 [Posted by: loadwick  | Date: 04/19/13 01:07:45 PM]
You'd might find yourself not so pleasantly surprised using Intel for OCL ... but hey wannabe geeks must state out these kind of "good features". Greatest thing in Intel is that it is so monstrous that every flea heard that there should be something promising for her in that blue logo.
0 0 [Posted by: OmegaHuman  | Date: 04/21/13 02:04:50 PM]
3-4-5 generations .. modern games ... what a bunch of old baloneys. Thats obvious isnt it, as no integrated graphics isnt designed to boost sales of "modern games"!

More hidden failure of every intel Integrated aka GMA/GT graphics is that their driver that "should support" all these wonderful features are in fact trailing chip itself for 18-36 month. And most of "Intels graphics" are "well performers" just because Intel cut out routines that maximally eliminate large bunch of eye-candy feature you'd expect every GPU since DX9.0c would support.
0 0 [Posted by: OmegaHuman  | Date: 04/21/13 02:01:33 PM]


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