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Bravo Nvidia. I am an ATI guy, but still. I really like what they've done. This benefits everyone what they have done and hopefully, things remain on the up and up. Kudos to Nvidia.
[Posted by: Raijin | Date: 04/14/04 11:23:23 AM]
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NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra and GeForce 6800: NV40 Enters the Scene
Started by: Raijin | Date 04/14/04 11:23:23 AM
Comments: 60 | Last Comment: 12/24/06 03:48:25 PM
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What about the cost
its all well being the best and can do this and that
but at what cost
its all well being the best and can do this and that
but at what cost
[Posted by: AngelLaHash | Date: 04/14/04 11:33:31 AM]
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Hot damn, now thats a good review!!! Great card and review. Three thumbs up (big toe included).
[Posted by: daniel3 | Date: 04/14/04 03:04:49 PM]
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Yes, very comprehensive review...
[Posted by: Fugly | Date: 04/14/04 03:47:49 PM]
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Very good review, in fact this is the best review that I've read about the NV40 so far(compared with HardOCP, Anandtech, Tomshardware, and Guru3D). I will start recomending XbitLabs to everyone.
[Posted by: One | Date: 04/14/04 09:05:00 PM]
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X-bit You just "Dominating!" Unreal Tournament (c)
[Posted by: GeForce | Date: 04/15/04 05:34:08 AM]
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i guess the 1.1 update for farcry would have fixed the gfx glitches in the game, as it did for the [H] guys.
Superb review and wonderful card. I hope to get one later this year if my budget wont go bust ;)
Superb review and wonderful card. I hope to get one later this year if my budget wont go bust ;)
[Posted by: Lutzifer | Date: 04/15/04 06:28:02 AM]
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hmm time could you find a way of measuring power compsumption?
[Posted by: SABERJ2X | Date: 04/15/04 08:42:18 AM]
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A certain win for NVIDIA.
The power requirements are set too high, but in such high price cards, i think it's no problem to pay more for a good PSU or to pay the electricity bill at the end of each month unless if ATI chip requires less power and have similar performance then ATI will win here.
The Geforce fx5xxx was a complete failure, while NVIDIA have those nice "paper specs" or marketing specs like I like to call it (30Gb/s, 475/500Mhz clock), the chip never made good use of the bandwidth available.
ATI should start thinking now what to do, since their position is good, but could be better if weren’t HL2. I think they have lost a lot of market because this was the "game" that was going to show the huge difference between one architecture and the other, or you could say the game that could have "killed" NVIDIA Geforce fx5xxx series. But now NVIDIA is superior so if the game comes out NVIDIA already have a chip that plays with it good to (or even better).
FSAA was a bit disappointing since I was expecting better image quality than ATI and it’s not the case, games that doesn’t work with FSAA like HALO, Splitter cell I was also expecting that they could have some way of made it possible, but no. Maybe it's why FSAA is still at 4X? New games wont work with FSAA in future?
It’s still only 4X FSAA since a card with that speed I was think 6X and 8X was already possible. ATI already have 6X and ATI 4X for me is superior to NVIDIA 4X (xbit choose wrong game and pictures to demostrate this). I don’t know what FSAA ATI will have, but if maintain the 6X, and add the 8X even with a “nice” performance hit, ATI should always have this advantage and if it bring new image quality levels then we certainly will have a nice competition, what feature is better FSAA 8X or PS3.0?
I heard at some time that Ati cards R3xx could implement FSAA to textures but it was bronken at hardware or driver level, maybe the new one R4xx will bring this.
The power requirements are set too high, but in such high price cards, i think it's no problem to pay more for a good PSU or to pay the electricity bill at the end of each month unless if ATI chip requires less power and have similar performance then ATI will win here.
The Geforce fx5xxx was a complete failure, while NVIDIA have those nice "paper specs" or marketing specs like I like to call it (30Gb/s, 475/500Mhz clock), the chip never made good use of the bandwidth available.
ATI should start thinking now what to do, since their position is good, but could be better if weren’t HL2. I think they have lost a lot of market because this was the "game" that was going to show the huge difference between one architecture and the other, or you could say the game that could have "killed" NVIDIA Geforce fx5xxx series. But now NVIDIA is superior so if the game comes out NVIDIA already have a chip that plays with it good to (or even better).
FSAA was a bit disappointing since I was expecting better image quality than ATI and it’s not the case, games that doesn’t work with FSAA like HALO, Splitter cell I was also expecting that they could have some way of made it possible, but no. Maybe it's why FSAA is still at 4X? New games wont work with FSAA in future?
It’s still only 4X FSAA since a card with that speed I was think 6X and 8X was already possible. ATI already have 6X and ATI 4X for me is superior to NVIDIA 4X (xbit choose wrong game and pictures to demostrate this). I don’t know what FSAA ATI will have, but if maintain the 6X, and add the 8X even with a “nice” performance hit, ATI should always have this advantage and if it bring new image quality levels then we certainly will have a nice competition, what feature is better FSAA 8X or PS3.0?
I heard at some time that Ati cards R3xx could implement FSAA to textures but it was bronken at hardware or driver level, maybe the new one R4xx will bring this.
[Posted by: I | Date: 04/15/04 09:46:55 AM]
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Jesus Christ... Who needs such a gigantic review? Almost 50 pages of same stuff as everywhere. Ok, i agree, those images takes a lot of places. But what in the hell were you thinking, when tried to explain about vga's working mechanics. I can bet a 100$ or more, that 95% of the readers, didn't understand this crap. IMHO it would be better if this was only a simple test-review, with some general overview of the features. Now when ATI releases it's R420. Then you can analyse the features and its advantages and disadvantages. Anyway, quite nice review, except of those things that I mentioned. That's only my opinion so don't flame me :)
[Posted by: byvis | Date: 04/15/04 10:33:10 AM]
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There is true trilinear for this card. The people over at HardOCP found it. You just need to enable it in the advanced options.
[Posted by: n/a | Date: 04/15/04 07:14:16 PM]
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I bet there are still the same optimizations that have pushed the 5xxx series scores up or if you want the scores are high (double) because besides the double all (vertex/tmu/etc...) there are still optimizations.
ATI should have put otimizations when nvidia started to put them to in their drivers, instead of forget them (removed), and used some kind of enable/disable option.
Some one said that ATI is going down because the R420 is based on the R3xx and that's bad? So what, if they double all like nvidia did, i bet that we will have at least a 2x performance increase to.
Where is the 128bit image quality in here?
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040414/geforce_6800 46.html
I never see a proff in any game that nvidia 128bit shader quality is better then the Ati 96bits.
I think Nvidia is still using 12 and 16 bit precision, it's a shame that nvidia says 32 bits is the way to go, and uses 12bit and 16bit, dont forged to add that to the performance numbers.
ATI should have put otimizations when nvidia started to put them to in their drivers, instead of forget them (removed), and used some kind of enable/disable option.
Some one said that ATI is going down because the R420 is based on the R3xx and that's bad? So what, if they double all like nvidia did, i bet that we will have at least a 2x performance increase to.
Where is the 128bit image quality in here?
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040414/geforce_6800 46.html
I never see a proff in any game that nvidia 128bit shader quality is better then the Ati 96bits.
I think Nvidia is still using 12 and 16 bit precision, it's a shame that nvidia says 32 bits is the way to go, and uses 12bit and 16bit, dont forged to add that to the performance numbers.
[Posted by: I | Date: 04/16/04 04:31:06 AM]
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An outstanding review, doing full justice to a stunning card. An excellent job by both nVidia and X-Bit Labs!
[Posted by: MTX | Date: 04/16/04 09:44:49 AM]
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Prize on this monster???
[Posted by: Robbie | Date: 04/16/04 10:31:41 AM]
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What performance can we expect from the non ultra version?
[Posted by: Robotiv | Date: 04/16/04 05:34:35 PM]
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I am agree with you for I am not in English-speaking country and to finish this article I spent 3 h, it's too long
[Posted by: davidhu | Date: 04/17/04 12:35:04 AM]
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Is there some Chinese here?pls connect to me
[Posted by: davidhu | Date: 04/17/04 12:36:42 AM]
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It seems that nVidia's drivers have always had some problems with C&C Generals graphics. My old GeForce 2 Ti could not use any driver higher than 45.23, otherwise the terrain textures would disappear and be replaced with a flat black. It will be interesting to see whether nVidia will eventually fix compatibility issues with Generals.
[Posted by: Wilco | Date: 04/18/04 03:18:30 AM]
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[Posted by: ClosetFanboy | Date: 04/18/04 10:44:41 PM]
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