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Intel Skylake to Bring AVX 3.2, DDR4, PCI Express 4.0, Other Innovations - Slide.

Started by: rektide | Date 07/04/13 01:04:24 PM
Comments: 30 | Last Comment:  07/18/14 11:48:33 PM

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Good thing SATA is having it's lunch eaten by SCSI Express and NVM Express, otherwise these hot cores would undoubtedly feature the same lame-ass 2x SATA 6Gbps + 4x SATA 3Gbps ports. Why must Intel IO hubs always be so woeful?
3 0 [Posted by: rektide  | Date: 07/04/13 01:04:25 PM]

the fact that Intel announce so early their plans means they are desperate with something.

Usually they made announcements for plans of maximum 6 months away . They announced only when was capable to quickly add to the market a product.
1 2 [Posted by: tbaracu  | Date: 07/04/13 01:36:51 PM]
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Yeah, pie in the sky at this stage. OEM's are already sampling hUMA enabled AMD Kaveri APUs. By 2015, Excavator with preemptive GPU code execution will be out. Intel's only advantage is its smaller node, not its micro-architecture.
4 5 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 07/05/13 01:17:33 AM]
agreed and i crossed my fingers to get HSA enabled ecosystem.and intel fanboys says HSA is nothing well time will tell
GCN(launched in 2012) supports unified memory same as nvidia maxwell(sheduled in 2014-15) this a joke?
and u told By 2015,AMD Excavator.....yes it is but actually that's not what AMD is intended for,, research on GCN showed AMD's real plan for future . actually frnd AMD is trying make a impossible thing and GCN gives clue about that mysterious design frnd i m betting that will biggest change in computing since 1990.
2 2 [Posted by: mudi1  | Date: 07/05/13 07:35:34 PM]
Windows 8.1 will support AMDs HSA Unified Memory Access. Microsoft knows that it cannot afford not to support this AMD and HSA Foundation initiative given the competition from ARM + other OSes. The WinTel monopoly is unravelling and AMD will start to get a look in.
2 1 [Posted by: linuxlowdown  | Date: 07/06/13 03:59:33 AM]
thnx frnd but still i want to see wheather microsoft is going to give full support to HSA(like intel HT - whole OS is optimized for that) or limited support(like modular cores)
1 1 [Posted by: mudi1  | Date: 07/06/13 05:44:38 AM]
This was a leaked PDF. It is not a product announcment in any way.
2 0 [Posted by: lol123  | Date: 07/09/13 08:15:47 AM]

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3 7 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 07/04/13 08:59:36 PM]
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GTX 690 or 7990 Dual Gpu cards are already almost saturating the PCI-E 3.0 bus.
4 2 [Posted by: TAViX  | Date: 07/05/13 05:54:48 AM]
um not even close check the bandwidth through on them.
2 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 07/05/13 11:20:30 PM]
Sigh, why are people so against technology advancement? Since PCIe 2.0 is not saturated we should not even think about PCIe 3.0/4.0?

For your information PCIe 2.0 is already saturated for server user. Put in a RAID card with some SAS HDDs hooked up or PCIe based SSD and you'll see. People needs to be more open minded, not just think from gaming experience. Intel is actually actively working on bringing these improvements to mainstream market.
3 2 [Posted by: trumpet-205  | Date: 07/05/13 10:40:30 AM]
because the pci-ex slots are mostly used for gaming in which these slots were designed around for.
3 3 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 07/05/13 11:21:41 PM]
No. PCIe slot is for expansion. You can plug in any expansion peripheral, not just GPU. Server motherboard use more than just GPU. They use LAN controller with multiple ports, RAID card, PCIe SSD, etc, all on PCIe.

PCIe was never designed soley for GPU (only AGP was designed exclusively for GPU), it is designed as a universal expansion slot. Same with USB, universal external port.

You are too narrow minded.
2 3 [Posted by: trumpet-205  | Date: 07/06/13 12:04:47 AM]
um we are talking pci-ex and yes pci-ex was a successor to agp, your talking pci-ex which is diff. that's because pci-e wasn't designed for graphic cards, it was designed to replace pci.
2 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 07/06/13 01:28:12 PM]
PCIe = PCI Express
PCI-X = PCI eXtended (dying standard)

PCI-X expanded on PCI while PCIe is the successor of both PCI and AGP.

You are the one that is confused on both term
0 1 [Posted by: trumpet-205  | Date: 07/07/13 08:35:06 AM]
are you blind I said pci-ex.
0 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 07/07/13 03:17:21 PM]
trumpet-205 is still correct about pci-e not being mainly for graphics cards. (yes i know this was posted more than a year ago)
0 0 [Posted by: qubit  | Date: 07/18/14 11:48:33 PM]
frnd real reason AMD and nvidia's roadmap both are going to release 3D memory stacking which will give bandwidth more than 1TB/sec. this is beyond reach of PCIe2.0-3.0
just for information nvidia is testing 3D memory designs and AMD tested successfully in 2011 but not launched coz cost but now cost is decreasing that's why GlobalFoundries is going to launch its 3D memory in Q1orQ2 2014.
and yes intel is also going to launch its 3D memory stacked xeon-phi in 2015-16
That's why PCIe4.0 is coming frnd
4 1 [Posted by: mudi1  | Date: 07/05/13 07:25:12 PM]
i'm still in a wait and see mode
3 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 07/05/13 11:23:10 PM]

DDR-4 in 2015-16? lol i want it now or in 2014.. oh wait AMD will have GDDR5-DDR4 with its CPU's why wait for intel
5 6 [Posted by: vid_ghost  | Date: 07/04/13 09:16:34 PM]
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yeah,,AMD did,,cool AMD
5 3 [Posted by: TheBinnaries  | Date: 07/04/13 09:25:32 PM]
DDR4 will be out with Haswel-E which is supposed to be out in late 2014

Skylake is first to support DDR4 for mainstream CPU's which should be out in 2015

1 1 [Posted by: maroon1  | Date: 07/05/13 02:12:05 AM]
2 1 [Posted by: mudi1  | Date: 07/05/13 07:31:17 PM]
because i need a cpu that has ECC. and actually gets work done. not games.
1 2 [Posted by: amdzorz  | Date: 07/05/13 08:08:26 AM]
Ivy Bridge based Pentium and Core i3 now has ECC RAM controller. You just need a motherboard that supports ECC RAM.
1 0 [Posted by: trumpet-205  | Date: 07/05/13 10:41:12 AM]
but frnd ECC will reduce ur user accessible memory.
2 0 [Posted by: mudi1  | Date: 07/05/13 07:32:05 PM]
yes ddr4 will be there in 2014(2133-2400mhz) but extremely overpriced with nonsense performance gain respected to its cost
3 2 [Posted by: mudi1  | Date: 07/05/13 07:29:39 PM]

Guys, no point in fighting. Any new technology is welcome, as long as is not overpriced and it brings some real advantages to the table. Relax, nobody will force you to upgrade if is no real gain from DDR3 to 4 or from PCI-E 3 to 4. A million of comparison benchmarks will be available then and we can all decide for ourselves if they are worth or not.
3 0 [Posted by: TAViX  | Date: 07/06/13 03:05:46 AM]
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2 0 [Posted by: mudi1  | Date: 07/06/13 08:18:42 AM]


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