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Intel Core i7-4790, i5-4690, i5-4590, i5-4460, i3-4360, i3-4350 and i3-4150 Review. Meet Haswell Refresh!

Started by: eleman | Date 05/27/14 02:29:38 PM
Comments: 37 | Last Comment:  04/01/16 08:56:03 PM

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Yeah, this is what happens when AMD sucks.
I hate markets lacking enough competition.
0 0 [Posted by: eleman  | Date: 05/27/14 02:29:38 PM]
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Then maybe you people should start buying a little more AMD hardware or at least promote it to the others when you feel that it will be good for them.
It is really annoying looking at people - not you, I am talking in general - who complain about AMD, when it cames the time to give an advise to someone looking to build an inexpensive PC, to suggest going for a Celeron or a Pentium and a useless mATX Intel motherboard with half the equipment of a same prices FM2+ board.
1 0 [Posted by: john_gre  | Date: 05/28/14 01:40:36 PM]
You are right john. I remember a user question if it would be better to buy intel core i5 or AMD FX for his GTX 760 and everybody replied Intel of course. But it was not a GTX 780 neither GTX 770 just GTX 760 c"mon people. Even AMD FX X6 would be fine.
If you own Intel/nvidia desktop buy yourself AMD laptop, you"l make yourself and everybody else a favor.
1 0 [Posted by: kingpin  | Date: 05/28/14 07:44:57 PM]
You have to be careful here, as you need to account for the amount of extra watts the AMD solution eats over the processor's lifespan. I was in a refresh situation after happily owning and E8400+HD4670(later swapped for a HD7770) for a while. I could go either to the newest AMD offering or refresh in the Intel camp. Once I accounted for the amount of watts the AMD solution would consume over the next five years (my use case is average up time of ~18h/day) compared to an Intel solution, I went with an i3-4130. I will get the difference in price back via a lower electrical bill in ~20 months. (The number is different based on the concrete rig, but you get my point.) To sum it all up, there is more than one thing to consider when going with one or the other and each person has to do the math for his use case. Right now, you are not taking AMD for the right reasons. It is mostly because it's cheap initially. And this situation sucks.
0 0 [Posted by: solearis  | Date: 06/05/14 12:12:39 PM]

There is no need to update or refresh as it is now called as there is no newer software to demand an increase in performance. The main software and operating system maker seem to be in reverse gear with lowering the computing power require to run their software.This could be that M/S in making pc.'s and the like and is lowering the computing power needed to run their software or have we been shafted all these years by them in upgrading our systems in the misguided belief that the newer software required more power and a better CPU? This could be the reason that XP. has had such a successful run.Ever=one and their dog is up AMD. who realised this way before others and now Intel is following their example.
Blaming AMD for the lack of advance in the CPU power is misguided as they are not the cause of the drop in demand for PC's and or the lack of newer hardware.
0 0 [Posted by: tedstoy  | Date: 05/28/14 02:11:06 AM]

Wow Intel, 2.5% performance gain for a 5% power increase, great work...
0 0 [Posted by: genie  | Date: 05/29/14 02:40:32 AM]
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Wow AMD, 10% performance gain for a 90% power increase, great work... (220+ WATTS)
0 0 [Posted by: amdzorz  | Date: 06/03/14 09:26:58 PM]
OR.. Wow AMD -40% IPC per core and the same power rating.. (Kevari)
0 0 [Posted by: amdzorz  | Date: 06/03/14 09:28:28 PM]
you pathetic piece of s***bag. kaveri has higher ipc than any previous gen of apu. 220w tdp fx 9000 series is simply a vastly overclocked version of 8000 series. when you overclock any haswell quad core processor to 5ghz barrier they do consume 300 watts too. did i just call u a noob? i hope not coz u're a moron!
1 0 [Posted by: revanchrist  | Date: 06/21/14 04:18:42 PM]
Hahahaha higher IPC than previous apus.. //slow clap//
0 0 [Posted by: amdzorz  | Date: 07/09/14 12:50:40 AM]
Bitch! It does have a higher IPC. Kaveri is clocked lower than Richland. GO read shit you DORK
0 0 [Posted by: Aditya Singh  | Date: 08/09/14 12:09:25 AM]

This is why I still enjoy my i7 920 @ 4.2Ghz....nothing really worth has happened on the CPU front since AMD fell so behind Intel that they just dont need to push it any more. :/
1 0 [Posted by: shaolin95  | Date: 06/05/14 10:00:30 PM]

You should probably note that while the 4790 only goes up by 100Mhz from the predecessor, the 4790K jumps up to a much more impressive 4Ghz baseline clockspeed.

(while strangely, the 4690K is the same clockrate as 4690)

Edit: I obviously meant you ought to make it clearer, as it´s only mentioned at the end of the article...
0 0 [Posted by: DIREWOLF75  | Date: 06/12/14 08:18:34 AM]

what's the flipping heck is this Intel Haswell bleeding boring Refresh crap today and where's the latest flipping bleeding Intel Broadwell and Intel Skylake cool stuff, as seeing that's Intel is now getting behind the curve now then?!
0 0 [Posted by: Chris David Stephens  | Date: 12/17/14 02:30:28 AM]


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