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Socket FM2+ Mainboards Comparison: Asus A88XM-Plus versus Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-D3H

Started by: beenthere | Date 06/12/14 10:46:59 AM
Comments: 17 | Last Comment:  08/21/15 11:32:59 AM

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Both of these mobos FAIL, IMO. It doesn't matter what the reviewer thinks, PC enthusiasts are going to want to overclock FM2+ mobos to get the most bang for the buck. APUs can definitely benefit from overclocking. These two mobos are half-baked crap rushed to marked, very typical of Asus.

As far as FM2+ is concerned, get use to it because it's going to be around for quite some time. What it brings is additional levels of power control for reduced power consumption - a desirable feature to most PC users.

The clockspeed per se does not determine the graphics performance entirely and AMD's APUs are so far ahead of Intel that no one with a clue would ever consider an Intel APU unless they are braindead.

The fact that some reviewers do not even understand how revolutionary AMDs Kaveri APUs are shows their technical ignorance. AMD's hUMA so drastically improves the PC landscape that every major PC industry player now supports it and Intel will be forced to copy it. This technology seems to be too complicated for some folks to understand. Kaveri is just the intro to the many advantages of hUMA.
1 0 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 06/12/14 10:46:59 AM]
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"Well, the real problem occurred when we tried to overclock the processor because its clock rate would drop to the default 3700 MHz or even lower, to 3500 MHz, at high loads even at the default settings. That’s a well-known problem, actually. AMD APUs aren’t very fast, so the manufacturer sets too high default clock rates for them to make up for the poor performance. The processor can’t work at that clock rate if the load is high. In other words, AMD’s processors are heavily overclocked even in their specified operating mode.

There’s no point in overclocking if the processor can’t keep its clock rate stable. Whatever clock rate you set, it is just going to be dropped at high loads."

This is not due to the APU ,but due to the motherboard/s and BIOS.
Most AMD mothebroards ,most of them on AM3+ ,some as we see here ,have the habbit to throttle.
On AM3+ you can simply tweak the CnQ ,APM or C6.The CnQ can work differently depending of the BIOS set-up (disabled by CPU or always enabled)
On AMD overclocking is done properly when you disable APM.
Train a little bit before testing AMD platforms

"The Socket FM2+ configurations don’t have good power consumption results when overclocked. Thief is a recently released game so we didn’t use it in our tests earlier but you can use the Fritz Chess Benchmark results to compare their power draw with that of LGA1150 platforms. Despite the discrete graphics card, their power consumption is comparable but the Intel Core i5-4670K overclocked to 4.5 GHz is almost twice as fast as its opponent!"

You should really use a lower power supply for a rig that sucks maximum 200W if you want to show us the power efficiency.You are using a 800 W one.
Intel Core i5-4670K is 30% more expensive than the APU you are using and has negligible GPU power (the included GPU being the key of AMD on FM2 platform) .What to say the CPU+ mobo combo price
Your review shows lack of knowledge for AMD hardware.

Just avoid reviewing AMD parts if you hate them.You are to biased.

AMD is all about price perf ratio and since FM2/+ it also goes well in the power efficiency.
5 points from 10 for this review
Gigabyte showed once more that it throttles the most any AMD CPU-s.The APU VRM design it s simply cheap.
2 0 [Posted by: HeadlessBottleneck  | Date: 06/12/14 05:09:13 PM]
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This revue is similar to a motoring mag or writer doing a comparison of VW. Polo to a Corvette or similar and saying that it does not compare Every one that one must compare like to like and price point to price point. If one really wants to compare this to an Intel product then it is an Pentium or Celeron which it should be compared to.
1 0 [Posted by: tedstoy  | Date: 06/13/14 04:37:34 AM]
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I thing you are right and wrong at the same time. there is improvement but it's not just canned within the APU itself. HSA is the way to go and i think that is a good start. if we stick to the common raw power of cpu we will be stuck in ages of computing while not harnessing gpu compute power. either way, i think this article needs balancing on the editorial comments side and make him understand that its not Intel that makes everything faster. It's the other way around. And please, if you review products don't be biased.. if you said you are and still be, better get another job because you are just making the site much like an endorsement site for Intel..
1 0 [Posted by: Jade Cereno  | Date: 06/13/14 04:48:45 AM]
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This site is a joke. Reviewers sounds like a 14yo kids, bashing every AMD products, it's like those people doesn't understand PC market at all. Most of the reviews sounds as if it was sponsored by intel. It's like a Polish website PCLAB, they're also sponsored by intel.
0 0 [Posted by: fanboyshater  | Date: 12/17/14 06:27:53 AM]
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Great Report, thanks a lot. Good to understand for one that does not deal with this topic everyday. After years of not building a new system it was time again to research and place the retail orders. However, if I would have found this Article earlier, my configuration would certainly be different to what is ordered now :-(
Regards from Germany
Mikas
1 0 [Posted by: postmikas  | Date: 02/19/15 04:42:46 PM]
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Hi! very intresting report! i have a10 7850k with asus a88xm-plus,8gb ram 2400Mhz, cpu cooler 212 evo hyper. I wan't to overclock manualy the gpu from 720 at 900Mhz. Should i increase any nb voltages?? in the report the gpu oc is at 960 Mhz with +0.1V increase nb voltage. Thanks a lot!
0 0 [Posted by: George Kourasis  | Date: 02/27/15 01:59:38 AM]
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In the GA-F2A88XM-D3H bios overview you forgot "F12" for taking screenshots (if it finds a formatted USB flashdrive plugged in)
0 0 [Posted by: Comrade Lenin  | Date: 06/08/15 06:49:17 AM]
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I have an overheating problem with the GA-F2A88XM-D3H and an Atlon II X4 750K: the stock CPU voltage is set to 1.402V and there's no way to lower it, it will go up to 1.460V on 100% CPU load (at stock speeds, not in overclock).

The only way to lower the CPU voltage is to install AMD OverDrive, with this program you can lower the CPU VID (but not the NB VID, that is also over the AMD specs).

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"Besides the typical downsides of ASUS products such as wrong processor information in the startup screen (which still has no full list of active hotkeys), a clumsy BIOS structure, etc., the A88XM-Plus is unstable with XMP memory profiles, doesn’t enable power-saving technologies for the integrated graphics core at overclocking and doesn’t change the North Bridge clock rate correctly at overclocking too. But apart from these minor downsides, the mainboard is good overall."

And these great features make it a superior board to the GA-F2A88XM-D3H? You must be joking. And what is the RMA rate for each? I think you'll find The Gigabyte board is returned far less than the ASUS board.
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