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Advanced Micro Devices said that while its next-generation code-named Shanghai processor is scheduled to be unveiled in the second half of next year, the world’s second largest chipmaker still has not produced a single working sample of it. As a result, it now depends on luck whether the firm is on-track to release its 45nm chips not much later compared to Intel Corp.

“We have 45nm on the way. We will have initial samples also in January. I’m fairly confident that those puppies are going to boot,” said Mario Rivas, executive vice president of computing products group at AMD, in an interview with CRN web-site.

AMD Opteron quad-core and dual-core processors code-named Shanghai, which are expected to be released in the second half of 2008, will use AMD’s K10 micro-architecture that will be present already in the code-named Barcelona processors, but will contain some performance enhancements. Thin 45nm process technology will allow AMD to install 512KB of L2 cache per core as well as 6MB of unified L3 cache, which is a significant enhancement compared to Barcelona.

Recently AMD discovered an erratum inside its Barcelona design and said that it would take it about three months to apply the fix to the shipping central processing units, which are made using three months. As a result, the company is projected to start shipping the new chips sometimes in February or March, 2008. Since the initial samples of Shanghai are not expected to contain the fix, it means that it will take AMD another three months to fix the design of its 45nm server chip too. Still, AMD seems to be optimistic about its development of the 45nm product.

“The 45nm, we consider it Rev C of the device. So all the learning, all the hard knocks that we had on Barcelona, we're going to apply it to Shanghai,” Mr. Rivas added.

Intel Corp., the world’s largest supplier of x86 central processing units (CPUs) and the arch-rival of AMD, demonstrated its first working code-named Nehalem processors, which are made using 45nm process technology and feature new micro-architecture along with some other improvements, back in September, 2007. While this does not guarantee that those Nehalem chips are errata-free, what is obvious is that Intel’s Nehalem chips are currently four months ahead of AMD’s Shanghai. More importantly, Intel is already shipping its 45nm chips based on Core 2 micro-architecture, enjoying performance advantages along with potential decreased manufacturing costs.

The destiny of AMD’s next-generation desktop processors code-named Deneb, Prophus and Sargas, due to be out in the second half of 2008, which support DDR3 memory as well as are intended for socket AM3 platforms, is currently unclear.


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LOL ,let me tell ya, AMD is good for nothing
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/11/07 02:04:43 PM]
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I've said this before. AMD is very good, and very useful, because as of now, VIA has found themselves a new competitor, and hopefully, this will bring new innovations to the table.
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/11/07 07:33:47 PM]

i won't believe it until i see it.
ANd remember, as far as i know, intel debuts Nehalem in 2H of 2008.

Good luck, AMD.
but quit delaying your comeback!
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/11/07 08:49:18 PM]

I think its pretty clear from the first couple comments, you guys are children. And don't weren't around when Intel use to charge $1000+ for the main stream chips. If AMD doesn't do well in 08 you can forget about those $300 quad core chips and prices will start to creep up with no competition.

Not that it matters when your parents buy most of your shit!

Gotta love you fanboys!!
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/12/07 03:45:21 PM]
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If you can't buy performance chips then go get yourself a job (or better yet stop slacking around forums)!

AMD fanboys claiming prices to go $1000+ are BS! Prices have gone below $300 for quads and with Intel's fab capable of saturating the market with these sub-$300 chips, its unlikely for the prices to go up!

Go back to school old man and learn your basic economics! I suggest you start with the law of supply and demand!
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/12/07 04:47:02 PM]
Did you actually read what he said? Learn how to read please.
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/12/07 07:01:42 PM]

Its quite surprising that a lot of people (the so called "fanboys") are loyal to AMD and preaching to support competition.

The current situation clearly indicates AMD chips can't even compete at performance level against Intel chips. thats why they had to reduce their prices as a consolation.

why support a company that couldn't even begin to compete for the sake of competition?!? its totally insane!

0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/12/07 07:31:11 PM]

haha get a job. I was typing that from home I have VPN access at work u dolt. As for the law of supply and demand while it is true, that doesn't stop intel from increasing prices when they have no competition. Why the hell will they sell you a $300 Quad when they can sell it to you for $500. And you mindless sheep will lap it up.

i'm pretty sure you'll still be using a P4 if it wasn't for the Athlon 64!

And if 27 is old then I guess you are right!
0 0 [Posted by:  | Date: 12/13/07 04:42:51 PM]


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