Advanced Micro Devices has once again changed its plans regarding the launch of higher-performance AMD Phenom microprocessors. Apparently, the higher speed microprocessors will be released commercially in April, 2008, a little earlier than it was generally expected.
AMD Phenom processor models 9550 (2.20GHz), 9650 (2.30GHz) and 9750 (2.40GHz) will be released commercially about eight weeks from now, sometime in April, a source familiar with the world’s second largest x86 chipmaker’s plans said. The new chips will be based on the B3 revision of the processor and will not have any issues with Translation Lookaside Buffer. The destiny of the high-speed AMD Phenom 9950 is unclear at the moment.
After a Translation Lookaside Buffer (TLB)-related erratum was discovered in AMD Phenom microprocessors and AMD had to impose a fix that reduced performance of the CPUs, Advanced Micro Devices announced a new B3 stepping of the chip with bug corrected without performance degradation. Originally the higher-performance AMD Phenom 9700 and 9900 at 2.40GHz and 2.60GHz, respectively, were scheduled to arrive in Q1, but after a series of delays many suspected that the products slipped into late Q2 or even Q3.
Earlier this week it was reported that virtually all AMD Phenom processors based on the B3 stepping are due in May or June with AMD Phenom 9950 at 2.60GHz scheduled to arrive sometime in the third quarter.
AMD crucially needs new microprocessors with decent performance in its lineup since its aging AMD Athlon 64 X2 family of chips cannot demonstrate performance on par with Intel Corp.’s Core 2 microprocessors. Moreover, with the list of Intel Core 2 Quad central processing units with four processing engines getting longer, AMD’s ability to compete decreases since the company’s lineup of microprocessors contains only two quad-core CPUs.
Officials from AMD did not comment on the news-story.
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A little less conversation a little more action, all this bs gives me no satisfaction. So go satisfy Mr. BonBon or turn around and just go home, cause all your bs does not satisfy me, SATISFY ME.
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Posted by: Mr. BonBon

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Date: 02/08/08 08:37:47 PM]
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Well said dude!! All they're good nowadays are hot air from their freakin' @$$
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Posted by: 699

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Date: 02/08/08 09:01:34 PM]
so you want them to fail and go out of business? Every industry needs a competitor no matter how small and incompetent. Unless you are hoping for the good the ole USA to declare Intel a monopoly and split them up.... how much better do you think you will be in 2 years, as a consumer, if the current trend continues in the CPU business?
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Posted by: aka_evil_e

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Date: 02/08/08 10:05:34 PM]
Yes split them!
CPU one company.
Chipset another one.
Network another.
GPU another.
Mobile another.
Marketing another.
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Posted by: Prime

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Date: 02/09/08 01:07:25 PM]
If AMD goes out of business Intel jacks up the prices.
If Intel jacks them too much, other architectures besides x86 might become more mainstream.
Think: a laptop with an ARM* CPU for example. Toshiba also their Cell/BE based Spurs Engine.
ARM is mostly used in embedded systems like Game Boys and car engine computers.
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Posted by: cheeseman

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Date: 02/09/08 01:39:07 PM]
Are you insane? Recompile all of the code for windows to another processor architecture? And do all of optimization all over again?
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Posted by: 31415

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Date: 02/10/08 09:01:55 PM]
I thinking Linux and long-term. Stuff like the EEE PC comes with Linux, so why not for another architecture. Hell, PS3s can run it.
But yes you are right. It would not work with all the thousands of apps coded in x86.
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Posted by: cheeseman

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Date: 02/11/08 06:47:04 AM]
replacing x86 or recompiling old code for ARM is really not an option with modern day windows or linux. Don't say cell but ARM is about the only thing that could replace Intel/AMD... be careful what you wish for!
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Posted by: aka_evil_e

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Date: 02/11/08 06:48:34 PM]
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Well, they are doing something more quickly than scheduled.
BUT, I dont think that getting owned ahead of schedule is what they need now...
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Posted by: 1234

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Date: 02/09/08 04:43:17 AM]
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I still keep wondering if AMD is pinning its hopes and R&D dollars on the 45nm generation. I keep feeling that the Phenom is designed to operate better at 45nm node than at the 65nm node.
Also I understand the need to compete at the quad core level but I can't help feeling that a new dual core based on the new architecture and die shrink coupled with faster and larger cache may be more profitable and probably a hit. I think tri cores will have their place and based on what I have read, the tri core may have a much higher frequency potential than the quads. I seems that one core, namely core 2 aka. the third core is the problem. Without that core on or throttled down the other cores can scale to 2.8GHz without stability problems. AMD might have used the TLB problem to cover a manufacturing process problem.
Hopefully the B3 (which might be the last revision on 65nm silicon) solves all these problems.
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Posted by: tobago

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Date: 02/09/08 07:55:22 AM]
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Yes faster duals based on the new architecture with 4/6MB L2 would be great.
Even for the Opteron Servers would be great.
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Posted by: Prime

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Date: 02/09/08 01:11:03 PM]
I've heard 1MB L2 per core and 2-6MB L3 shared.
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Posted by: cheeseman

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Date: 02/09/08 01:41:22 PM]
AMD can't match Intels 45 nm process generation. IBM has some good sht at 32nm but it all ends at 14nm for everyone!
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Posted by: aka_evil_e

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Date: 02/11/08 06:59:28 PM]
A few years ago, in CPU Magazine, I read that IBM already had 7nm transistors in their labs. Granted they said it "leaked power like a seive".
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Posted by: cheeseman

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Date: 02/13/08 08:59:55 AM]
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AMD does not look so good right now :(
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 (3.00GHz, 12MB) Q3'08
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 (2.83GHz, 12MB) Feb-Mar'08
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 (2.66GHz, 12MB) Feb-Mar'08
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 (2.50GHz, 6MB) Feb-Mar'08
AMD Phenom 9950 (2.60GHz) May-June'08
AMD Phenom 9750 (2.40GHz) April'08
AMD Phenom 9650 (2.30GHz) April'08
AMD Phenom 9550 (2.20GHz) April'08
the question is how much faster will a Q9450 be vs. P9950.
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Posted by: Silver

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Date: 02/10/08 01:26:09 AM]
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So you don't think a Q9300 will be faster than a 9950? The Q9300 will certainly consume less power and have a better performance/watt (AMD's 'key metric these days?)
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Posted by: Average Joe

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Date: 02/10/08 11:59:03 AM]
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Dig up an Xbit article from last year. It's called Phenom Christmas Gift.
They bench a 3GHz Phenom engineering sample. Give a good idea of K10 clock scaling.
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Posted by: cheeseman

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Date: 02/10/08 04:32:43 PM]
Link to the above mentioned article:
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-phenom.html
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Posted by: MonkRX

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Date: 02/10/08 08:50:36 PM]
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It's too good to be true. I just can't trust "Hectored" promises.
AMD is a great innovation-driven company doomed by gloomy management.
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Posted by: AMD ADVocate

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Date: 02/10/08 11:44:08 PM]
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