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Microprocessors based on non-x86 are going to extinct, an analyst said. Servers chips from IBM or Sun have no business future, according to Jon Peddie, a leading analyst.

"They [IBM and Oracle] cannot gain economy of scale and they cannot support the R&D needed to stay current and meaningful," said Jon Peddie of Jon Peddie Research in an interview about the future of PC technology.

At present IBM develops its Power architecture processors to compete on the market of mission critical servers. Oracle creates Sun SPARC chips for the same reasons. Intel and HP are working on Itanium project. However, it looks likes only the latter is set to survive.

Tags: IBM, Power, Sparc, HP, Itanium, Intel


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Discussion started: 10/04/10 02:33:23 AM
Latest comment: 10/06/10 07:21:59 AM
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What's wrong with this fella ? Something is definitely wrong with his statement as we all know for a fact that SPARC is an OPEN ARCHITECTURE while Itanium isn't.And SPARC has currently support for 2 major companies : Fujitsu & Oracle. With Fuji announcing the world's most powerful CPU.Itanium was NEVER EVER successful and was always competing with x86 and loosing almost always .How come is Itanium the one to survive?Sure, x86 servers running Phenom II and Nehalem based CPUs offer a great deal of competition to the non-x86 architectures but really, where is Itanium in the first 10 places in TOP500? Cause Power and SPARC occupy quite a lot of positions.
0 0 [Posted by: East17  | Date: 10/04/10 02:33:23 AM]

a pity that Apple killed PA Semi's PPC; that was mighty chip. Freescale is still doing good things with multi-core SoC ppc, & finally released their long promised 64-bit core. dunno about SPARC, what it costs to keep developing v. what it brings in, but i'd imagine Oracle wants a pocket ace should they ever be forced to ward off Intel aggression.
0 0 [Posted by: rektide  | Date: 10/04/10 09:01:28 AM]

The Sun/Oracle SPARC is a fully open architecture unlike the other architectures mentioned in this article including x86.
0 0 [Posted by: phatboye  | Date: 10/04/10 09:30:39 AM]

Just because something is open, doesn't mean it will survive. Especially true for corporate purchases where support/predictability is valued very high.

OpenGL is barely surviving, in comparison to DirectX. Whys that if Open stuff is always better (sarcasm).
0 0 [Posted by: cashkennedy  | Date: 10/04/10 09:39:22 AM]
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WHAT?...Are you serious? Get out of Windows and you will see how OpenGL is surviving. DX is refreshed often because MS likes the "consumer" attitude (yes...yes...we are all stupid paying customers who buy HW just because MS or whoever says their games are made for DX v.vv).
What do you think the animated movie creators use? When you talk about non-Windows 3D graphics, you talk about OpenGL. Also there are Windows applications that use OpenGL instead of DX. But those applications cost in excess of 1000$.
0 0 [Posted by: mathew7  | Date: 10/06/10 07:21:59 AM]

Agreed with the sentiment that SPARC being open isnt going to mean it'll survive. If Oracle were smart I believe they'd commodify it as best as they are able, making the platform easy to adopt and generating as much adoption as possible, just to jam the x86 hegemony. Given T3's SoC design (onboard everything), getting OEM's onboard shouldn't be that difficult, they just need chip availability and software to utilize it.

On the other hand, saying OpenGL is barely surviving is hilariously wrong. There have been 5 releases in the past 18 months, and there's no other options out there for huge cross sections of the computer industry. Feature parity is close to DX, and the standards body has aggressively been pushing "out with the old" state machines and in with stored contexts. OpenGL is here to stay, and grow; the computer world needs it to, and the new leadership seems to be doing incredibly well promoting it.
0 0 [Posted by: rektide  | Date: 10/04/10 11:16:03 AM]

Jon appears to be a shill. IA64 is all but dead; Power is alive and well (powering IBM's mainframe, minicomputer and Linux systems) as well as its spawn powering various game and embedded systems. SPARC is more problematic, as others have noted, being Open doesn't ensure success.

But given the much lower transistor budget (than x64 designs) there can certainly be a market for the massively multicore (albeit at lower clock rates) if Oracle remains nimble enough to exploit that advantage.

If/when there's another process phase change, smaller simpler designs have an advantage (which Intel has overcome by massive and parallel design teams).

So, are some designs slated to die ... sure, IA64 heads the list as it provides Intel with no real advantage, but real costs. It's only serious consumer is HP, and only time will tell if HP will continue down that path (and if they have enough commitment from Intel to get Intel to carry much of the costs).
0 0 [Posted by: khbkhb  | Date: 10/04/10 12:08:27 PM]

Does anybody really reads these articles or comments ? The title is strange / wrong ... SPARC is open not proprietary. I've never said that it's "openness" will ensure its survival. I've only said that x86 is proprietary and obviously not dying and SPARC .. dying or not is NOT proprietary .
0 0 [Posted by: East17  | Date: 10/05/10 02:35:51 AM]

Isn't Power open as well? I remember IBM offered the Cell line license free at one time.
0 0 [Posted by: MatthiasF  | Date: 10/05/10 03:54:37 AM]

Well, Power architecture .. I don't know. But ... CELL is owned jointly by SONY, Fujitsu and IBM .
0 0 [Posted by: East17  | Date: 10/06/10 03:50:42 AM]


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