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The code-named Bulldozer NG processors are not only discussed by Advanced Micro Devices in conceptual "what if" roadmaps, but are actually chips that are in developments and that have chances to show up earlier than one may think.

AMD recently added several new extensions for the "upcoming bdver2 processors" into the set of patches for GNU operating system, findings of a famous blogger reveal. The fact that Advanced Micro Devices made the new extensions available under non-disclosure agreement to select software developers mean that the company's Bulldozer Version 2.0 - or, perhaps, Bulldozer NG - may be just several years away.

The new extensions that should be supported by the Bulldozer 2 processors are the following:

  • BMI - Bit Manipulation Instructions
  • TBM - Trailing Bit Manipulation
  • FMA3 - three operand FMA [fused multiply-add] instructions

Unfortunately, we know nothing about the aforementioned instructions and their potential. What we do know is that AMD's own Bulldozer does support FMA4 instruction already and the FMA3 may be implemented for better compatibility with Intel's Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge chips that support the FMA3.


According to Wikipedia, the 4-operand form (FMA4) allows a, b, c and d to be four different registers, while the 3-operand form (FMA3) requires that d is the same register as either a, b or c. The 3-operand form makes the code shorter and the hardware implementation slightly simpler while the 4-operand form provides more programming flexibility.

AMD does not comment on unannounced products.

Tags: AMD, Bulldozer, Bulldozer NG, Fusion, Opteron, FireStream, Radeon


Comments currently: 5
Discussion started: 11/05/10 10:01:07 PM
Latest comment: 06/07/11 11:19:02 AM
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I see no connections between these new instruction and brand-new BD-NG. These instructions might very likely be implemented in BD.
AMD has been needing more than 7 years to develop BD. So that BD-NG we might see after 2015 only.
0 0 [Posted by: Azazel  | Date: 11/05/10 10:01:07 PM]
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Who tells you that AMD didn't change its developing times ? ;-)
A lot of things happened in the recent years.

Furthermore, the instructions are clearly labeled bdver2, in contrast to bdver1, i.e. they definitely wont be implemented with the first Bulldozers.

Just read Dresdenboy's blog post, then you will see the connection ;-)

0 0 [Posted by: Bingle  | Date: 11/06/10 01:28:49 AM]
Most probably BD-NG is to come by 2013.
0 1 [Posted by: dezz  | Date: 06/07/11 11:19:02 AM]

The title should be

[b]AMD prepares new instruction set that is set to be sabotaged by INTEL with their botched compilers.[/b] or

[b]New instruction set from AMD that will be rendered useless by INTEL's compilers after INTEL copies most of the ideas in it.[/b]
0 0 [Posted by: East17  | Date: 11/09/10 05:59:39 AM]

The article says: "Intel's Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge chips that support the FMA3."


FMA3 is planned by Intel in their HASWELL microarhitecture, next to Ivy Bridge, coming in 2013.

Some more info on FMA:
0 1 [Posted by: dezz  | Date: 06/07/11 11:16:30 AM]


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