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Advanced Micro Devices this week again reiterated its roadmap for chips to be made using 32nm silicon-on-insulator (SOI) gate-first high-K metal gate (HKMG) process technology. The interim chief exec promised to launch code-named Llano accelerated processing units in Q2 2011, but to delay the highly-expected Bulldozer chips to "summer".

"We have entered a new phase with our 32nm ramp and are now sampling thousands of Llano products to a wide variety of OEMs and ODMs as they prepare for production in Q2," said Thomas Seifert, interim chief executive officer of AMD, during a conference call with financial analysts.

Back in early November it was, reported citing unofficial sources, that AMD would commence commercial manufacturing of code-named Llano accelerated processing units (APUs) for desktops and mobiles in July '11, which is Q3 2011.

Meanwhile, microprocessors with Bulldozer micro-architecture were supposed to hit the mass production sometime in April '11, according to unofficial sources.

"We have begun sampling our 32nm Bulldozer-based Orochi parts in volume with customers worldwide. We expect Orochi for desktops to ship in production in early summer and the Orochi for servers in late summer," said Thomas Seifert, interim chief executive of AMD.

The CEO confirmed that the company had started to ship samples of its microprocessors based on the Bulldozer micro-architecture to customers "in volume". While sampling seems to be on relative schedule, the precise roadmap outlined by the company means delays with mass availability of the chips.

Tags: AMD, Bulldozer, , 32nm, Radeon, ATI, Phenom

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Bulldozer is NOT delayed.

Q2 for desktop
Q3 for server

0 2 [Posted by: JF-AMD  | Date: 01/22/11 05:04:22 AM]
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If it is not delayed how come nobody noticed that it was released 2 years ago ? As that's what AMD promised in 2007.
0 0 [Posted by: klikodesh  | Date: 01/22/11 06:05:50 AM]
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That was a 45nm product that was canceled. This is a 32nm product.
0 2 [Posted by: JF-AMD  | Date: 01/22/11 06:12:03 AM]
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Really ? When was it canceled couldn't find the announcement on AMD.com yet.
Why should we believe this one comes out on time unlike the last one ?
0 0 [Posted by: klikodesh  | Date: 01/22/11 06:24:30 AM]
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We sympathize with JF-AMD, for all the facts of the world dont stand a chance against the teenager Intel cheerleaders and fanboys/girls that took a habit trolling AMD everywhere.
0 1 [Posted by: bereft  | Date: 01/22/11 08:28:54 AM]
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Fact is Bulldozer didn't come out in 2009, despite AMD's promises.
I rather trust Xbitlabs than AMD sympathizers.
0 0 [Posted by: klikodesh  | Date: 01/22/11 08:50:18 AM]
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Amd did announce it.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/n...r_Processors_to_2011.html
Fact is that you are troll intel fanboy with no brains.
0 0 [Posted by: visz963  | Date: 01/22/11 10:00:39 AM]
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Amd did announce it.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/n...r_Processors_to_2011.html
Fact is that you are troll intel fanboy with no brains.
0 0 [Posted by: visz963  | Date: 01/22/11 10:03:02 AM]
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Which announcement can't be found among AMD's press releases on their website, just as I wrote.
I would be surprised if they were to admit this delay. Especially as it could be covered up unlike in the case of the 45nm Bulldozer.

He only said it is released in Q2 as promised which does not mean Xbitlabs is wrong. Xbit could very well be right about the relase date and the delay to June which is still Q2, but we will see. Whether it was intended for an April launch we will never know, but I rather trust Xbit than AMD.
If Bulldozer makes it to the market at all this time.
0 0 [Posted by: klikodesh  | Date: 01/22/11 11:40:43 AM]
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your last sentence marks you as a fanboy.

ES of bulldozer have been spoted, cpu-z screenshots made, wafer photo's have been made, and AMD themselfs mentioned bulldozer release (early summer desktop late summer server) in their quarterly results conference call.
early summer is around juni, which is still Q2.

and yet you still question if it exists?
0 0 [Posted by: Countess  | Date: 01/22/11 12:06:10 PM]
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Comprehension fail.
"If it makes it to market" is not "questioning if it exists"

your last sentence marks you as a fanboy.

0 0 [Posted by: Borat Demerjian  | Date: 01/22/11 12:31:49 PM]
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There is no reason to hurry, many people switch from Intel Lga775 to Amd Thuban 6 core.
0 2 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 01/22/11 11:49:18 AM]
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Obviously! Bulldozer is so close to launch that everyone wants a Phenom II X6...yeah, that makes sense. Thanks blackcode, you take the T out of Tweak.
0 0 [Posted by: Borat Demerjian  | Date: 01/22/11 12:21:11 PM]
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Many people who have CPU with LGA 775 socket wait Buldozer ,that is true,then I expect mass migration from LGA 775 to AM3+.
0 2 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 01/22/11 02:29:07 PM]
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Kilkodesh, try not to think too much, because life will be complicated for you.
0 0 [Posted by: visz963  | Date: 01/22/11 02:25:22 PM]
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Actually, for anyone looking to buy one, it is:

Q3 for desktop
Q4 for server

as the AMD comments refer to SHIPPING (late June/July for desktop, September for server), not end product availability. Add a week or a month to those times, and you land in Q3 and Q4.

To be fair, AMD never said mass production or launch in April, it was just the fanboys that interpreted "IP" as launch instead of "initial production", which in hindsight probably referred to wafer starts.

No server BD til Q4 is particularly bad, given AMD's crashing server share. The CEO himself even admitted their server marketing has been terrible:

"I'm not going to make a secret out of it, that we were disappointed with our performance in the segment in the fourth quarter. This is one of the areas where we see significant room for improvement and that is one of the areas I would like to being referred to when we talk about picking up the pace. We think we have a good product portfolio in place but we have to work on our go-to-market strategies and this will be one of the emphasis moving forward."
0 0 [Posted by: chipper  | Date: 01/22/11 03:44:30 PM]
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"We have begun sampling our 32nm Bulldozer-based Orochi parts in volume with customers worldwide."

Correct me if im wrong but isn't it usually about 6 months from sampling to shipping? So, if Bulldozer begun sampling in Dec 10 that would put it's release date possibly around May or June 2011, and if it began sampling in Jan 2011 that could put its release around June or possibly July 2011?

This looks to me like it was supposed to launch in May but has slipped to June (which is still Q2)
0 0 [Posted by: dizzystuff  | Date: 01/22/11 08:03:06 PM]
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Doug, AMD has already publicly stated that server begins production in Q2 and it launcches in Q3. We have also said that we will begin fulfilling deals PRIOR to launch, so that means shipments between Q2 and Q3.

I realize that does not fit the narrative that you like to spread on the internet, but you just have to realize that sometimes the facts don't fit your view.
0 2 [Posted by: JF-AMD  | Date: 01/23/11 04:38:43 AM]
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Well well well, 'If the mountain will not come to Muhammad, then Muhammad must go to the mountain', hey chipper, still dreaming making that sweet retirement by shorting AMD? lol.
0 1 [Posted by: bereft  | Date: 01/22/11 04:35:52 PM]
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It looks to me like AMD is having such a good uptake of Ontario/Zacate, that they brought Llano forward at Bulldozer's expense.
0 0 [Posted by: bbo320  | Date: 01/23/11 04:48:38 AM]
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With all the discussion about Bulldozer release date, it should be noted that Thomas Seifert is saying that Llano will be available earlier than what was unofficially expected.

But Llano, although very important for AMD, isn't very exciting for the typical enthusiast.

I expect to see Llano in a lot of McComputers from Dell, HP and Acer.

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And for JF-AMD, if you are still reading, a bonus comment :-)

Let's hope AMD can find decent names for Llano and Bulldozer. The Zacate naming is a head-scratcher. E-350...what? It needs a real marketing name like...er.. "Atheon" or "Rattlon" I'm sure AMD can come up with something better than "Core"

The fact that manufacturers are using the Zacate and Brazos code names to describe the parts shows that there is a void in the naming of this product. Example:

http://www.asus.com/produ...wWCwqyl1lz&templete=2
0 0 [Posted by: BernardP  | Date: 01/23/11 07:07:47 PM]
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Core is the dumbest brand name I have ever come across, with the possible exception of the Chevrolet Celebrity.

What's next, the Buick Piston? Or the Michelin Tread?

Celeron was pretty bad too. It sounded like a non-nutritive vegetable. Duron sucked too, and sounded very low class and crude. I don't know who names these things.
0 0 [Posted by: TA152H  | Date: 01/25/11 10:00:27 AM]
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It's very easy to disperse the fog around Llano.
XBit might take Athlon X4 + Radeon 5570 (or 5550, don't know what is sitting inside the Llano) and benchmark it versus Intel's i5/i3.
0 0 [Posted by: Azazel  | Date: 01/24/11 12:51:48 AM]
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"According to Mr. Fruehe, Bulldozer client products are to be launched in Q2 2011, whereas Bulldozer server products launch is scheduled at Q3 2011."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/n...Delayed_Says_Company.html
0 0 [Posted by: GavinT  | Date: 01/24/11 02:24:21 AM]
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Let's be real, Bulldozer being released a few months late doesn't matter. AMD will continue to make an inferior processor, and people will buy it only because it costs less than Intel's better processor. It will be better than now, where AMD makes heinously bad processors that can't compete with Intel's processors of two generations ago, but they still will not be what anyone wants. They'll be what you settle for if you can't buy the best.

The Bobcat, if you'll forgive the pun, is a different animal, and in my opinion much more interesting. I guess AMD finally realized they can't compete with Intel where they are strong, so instead hit them where they are weak. The Atom is too slow, and the other offerings from Intel are too big to sell very cheaply, and on top of that do not have an integrated GPU that's particularly good. This is a superior product in many ways, in the segment it is targeting, and should have a larger impact for AMD because of that.

This is not to say Bulldozer is useless, or bad, it's just not a game changer. Bobcat could be, in a pretty useful segment. Bulldozer might have some advantages in power for many threaded apps in the server space, but Sandy Bridge will beat it in most other applications by a healthy margin. Bobcat will destroy Atom, and is much cheaper to make, and has a better IGP than Penryn based low voltage solutions.

I think AMD made the right choice. Also, following Sandy Bridge too closely would probably make Bulldozer look worse, and it also gives them time to tweak it and get some extra performance out if it, and some extra clock speed, since Bulldozer seems to be designed for higher clock speeds than Barcelona.
0 0 [Posted by: TA152H  | Date: 01/25/11 09:56:15 AM]
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Of course... AMD processors are made in Germany, and the German lost:

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/ta152h.html
0 0 [Posted by: BernardP  | Date: 01/25/11 11:15:44 AM]
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how exactly are AMD cpu's inferior when they offer more bang for buck in just about every segment of the market they operate in?

so why would i want to buy overpriced products from a inferior company (monopolistic and criminal, which for years has prevented the free market from operating correctly)?
0 0 [Posted by: Countess  | Date: 01/26/11 09:35:17 AM]
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100% agree... Monopolistic and criminal they were ( and probably still are ) is the exact reason why i refuse to buy their products, no matter how good they are.
0 0 [Posted by: vvulture  | Date: 02/08/11 03:48:07 PM]
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Nice post. I believe you're right. AMD needs to target the markets they can be most successful in. They're never going to be top dog in the desktop arena. While I'm extremely glad AMD stays in the desktp market to keep Intel from price gouging, lets not forget that when AMD had the better processors they did the exact same thing. People seem to forget that.
0 0 [Posted by: Astral Abyss  | Date: 01/26/11 03:31:47 PM]
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You're a dead set idiot... Fancy saying that shit : ***They're never going to be top dog in the desktop arena***
How the fuck do you know this ? You some kind of fortune teller are you?? dick head
0 0 [Posted by: vvulture  | Date: 02/08/11 03:46:18 PM]
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Here we go... another fortune teller who knows EXACTLY how Bulldozer will perform..
man i wish I knew how to tell the future.
0 0 [Posted by: vvulture  | Date: 02/08/11 03:50:06 PM]
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Man, i remember the good old days when the original Athlon64's smashed anything Intel had to offer, in price and performance.
funny how we forget... but if Astral Abyss is to be believed, AMD will never be the top dog in the desktop arena...
How fucking ignorant is that ?!?!
0 0 [Posted by: vvulture  | Date: 02/08/11 03:53:21 PM]
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Bulldozer will BEAT Intel Q1 SandyBridge 1155 and will come close to 2011 but never Beat it in anyway.

Why?

Simple Intel 1155 4/8 4 Cores, 8 Threads well multithreading gives a boost it can't compete against 8 true cores.

Such as AMD Bulldozer

That Said AMD True 8 Cores Can't compete Against Intels 2011 8 Core.

The Key Intresting Note will be which one will win in Clock / Clock Multithreading aside as 16 threads who cares, what uses 4 cores right now nevermind 16 threads?

Another interesting thought would be assigning Specific Cores to handle Gaming,Windows,TS3,Web dividing that up so that 4 Cores are for Gaming period let the rest handle OS and other junk. Would that be efficent idk. Not practical for Number Crunching Video Editors, Coders.

1155 is already a dead socket before it was launched, dead by means of 2011 just around the corner which means 2600k is the best and last chip that will most likely ever be made for it, why produce 6,8 core cpu's when you already have a 2011 socket for 6,8 core cpu's

So on that note Bulldozer On paper should crush the Intel 1155 Socket and If AMD keeps the trend of Compatability alive should see more cpu's for it . However If the Socket is truely Backwards compatible with AM3 sockets I hope they didn't shot them selves in the foot to make it that way.

So nothings Really changed in terms of Bulldozer

AMD - Gaming / Surfing the Web.

Intel - Gaming / Surfing the Web / Multithreaded App's

The Interesting parts as stated above will be the market of individuals who want a Surfing the Web / Homework / Facebook - Desktop or Laptop / Notebook.

1155 No GPU needed, AMD's APU's.....
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