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A number of market indicators revealed this week that the highly-anticipated microprocessors based on Bulldozer micro-architecture may become available later than expected. Several sources indicated that AMD might be unable to make available the FX-series "Zambezi" chips in September, besides, AMD declined to comment on revenue shipments of Opteron "Interlagos" and "Valencia" microprocessors.

The mass availability of next-generation high-end desktop FX-series central processing units (CPUs) code-named Zambezi in September is under question mark at the moment, an industrial source told X-bit labs. Other sources indicated that the desktop chips powered by Bulldozer micro-architecture will likely be launched sometimes in the fourth quarter of 2011, more than a quarter later than the company originally expected. AMD did not comment on the information.

The availability of the next-generation AMD Opteron "Interlagos" and "Valencia" microprocessors is still scheduled on Q3 2011, which ends in September. However, the company did not confirm that it had met its guidance and started to ship the appropriate chips for revenue in August (which it promised in July).

"Our [original] plan of record for Q3 revenue shipments of Bulldozer-based [AMD Opteron] products remains unchanged," said Phil Hughes, a spokesman for AMD.

AMD is eyeing the September 26 release date for its new “Valencia” Opteron 4200-series chips with six or eight cores as well as “Interlagos” Opteron 6200-series microprocessors with eight, twelve or sixteen cores, according to an unofficial report. Formally, AMD can introduce the chips officially on the day of the volume shipments start, not on the day when actual servers become available. Such announcement will allow AMD to meet its original guidance.

In case the information about possible slip of volume shipments of Bulldozer-based processors is correct, then actual high-volume availability of  desktops and servers will slip to the second half of Q4 2011 or even the Q1 2012. This means that the company will miss certain sales opportunities and its revenues will be lower than they could have been with volume availability of Bulldozer-based microprocessors.

Tags: AMD, Opteron, Bulldozer, Interlagos, Valencia, Zambezi

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3 6 [Posted by: Tristan  | Date: 08/31/11 11:33:11 AM]
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Yea..... i like my 990FX board but this is rediculous... i sunk too much money into AM3+ so i'm forced to wait.
1 1 [Posted by: campdude  | Date: 08/31/11 11:38:20 AM]
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i have great reservations about giving money to a company convicted of monopoly abuse all around the world. at least not until the market shares are more in balance.

and i've had my athlon64 s939 system for 6 years now (and gaming on it, yes included the latest games) so what's another few weeks.
5 3 [Posted by: Countess  | Date: 09/01/11 03:59:46 AM]
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so i'm guessing you'll gonna wait for several more years! it's not like AMD will be the top dog anytime soon!
3 2 [Posted by: dudde  | Date: 09/01/11 07:37:12 AM]
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who cares? i dont need or even want(to pay for) top dog.
what they will be is competitive in my price range. and they should have some very decent over-clocking headroom, given the design.

what's going to take several more years is for AMD to get a much larger market share, but that's going to happen and all they have to do is remain competitive in the mid-range and lower markets. OEM's will take care of the rest now that intel's stranglehold around their necks has been released.

now all we need is for intel to no longer purposefully cripple AMD performance on programs compiled with their compiler(which is used a lot). Changing the vendor ID on a CPU will increase performance of non-intel CPU's... all that R&D budget and Intel still need to resort to this? weak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...%2B%2B_Compiler#Criticism
"If the vendor string is "GenuineIntel" then it uses the optimal code path. If the CPU is not from Intel then, in most cases, it will run the SLOWEST POSSIBLE version of the code, even if the CPU is fully compatible with a better version."

a compiler shouldn't even read the vendor ID string!, all it needs is the feature flags.

now tell me, it that a company you want to give your money too?
1 0 [Posted by: Countess  | Date: 09/02/11 01:32:20 AM]
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competetive company?!? BS!!! how can one company be competetive if they can't release a product in time?!?

If you got a problem with a Intel's compiler, then go tell AMD to make a compiler of their own!

i'll give my money to whatever company that can come up with a processor that I can buy! BD is technically still a vaporware!
0 1 [Posted by: dudde  | Date: 09/07/11 02:19:35 PM]
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Oh yes and Sandy Bridge was a big sucess at launch or did you forget about the chipset problems they ran up against? Or the fact that Ivy Bridge has also been delayed from Q4 of 2011 to Q2 2012.
1 0 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 09/21/11 01:16:53 PM]
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I prefer seeing a new champion from AMD later instead of new Looser sooner.
And BTW they have a new CEO now. maybe it helps.
0 0 [Posted by: Pouria  | Date: 08/31/11 11:58:05 AM]
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The waiting isn't so bad...it's not knowing how long.
3 0 [Posted by: bbo320  | Date: 08/31/11 12:03:40 PM]
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AMD confirmed August shipping date in Q2 conference call. How come this will change in a month ? I think, I will stick to "Rick Bergman" words on production & shipping schedule. unless parts are ready and clean, they wont make the shipping date commitment to analysts. Lets wait & see, how reliable his words are and who is right and who is wrong.
0 0 [Posted by: Kicha31  | Date: 08/31/11 12:06:58 PM]
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How pathetic is that?
3 1 [Posted by: Harry Lloyd  | Date: 08/31/11 02:24:49 PM]
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If the Bulldozer won't rise to the expectations i am foreseeing bad times for Amd. I am waiting too for bulldozer to build a new rig and my patience is running out.
1 2 [Posted by: george1976  | Date: 08/31/11 02:35:01 PM]
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Same here - Rage is coming early Oct, not waiting for AMD if they can't ship anything in september.
3 1 [Posted by: wicko  | Date: 08/31/11 07:36:48 PM]
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All i want for christmas is a my two BD reviews.

its lame but we are all waiting for those reviews..
0 0 [Posted by: vid_ghost  | Date: 08/31/11 05:58:06 PM]
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Would be feeling much better if there were dual-socket motherboards in channel. Let me buy a good/new mobo and stuff an old CPU in there while I wait for this dust to settle.
0 0 [Posted by: rektide  | Date: 08/31/11 07:49:12 PM]
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1 5 [Posted by: visz963  | Date: 08/31/11 10:43:19 PM]
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...Duke Nukem Forever, but i hope not though.
0 1 [Posted by: 63jax  | Date: 09/01/11 12:25:03 AM]
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Funnily enough, I have alerts sent to me abou Bulldozer and the story after this one was a Fudzilla article saying Bulldozer is coming on September 19th. So I have to say I'm not sure who to believe.

http://www.fudzilla.com/p...r-comes-on-september-19th
0 0 [Posted by: GavinT  | Date: 09/01/11 12:41:59 AM]
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You might believe the both.
The article tells about the mass availability of BD. On Sept, 19th we'll may see the formal launch only.
0 0 [Posted by: Azazel  | Date: 09/01/11 01:40:39 PM]
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AMD - Another Major Delay
5 4 [Posted by: Tristan  | Date: 09/01/11 03:53:22 AM]
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2 5 [Posted by: Narmer  | Date: 09/01/11 05:06:24 AM]
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Don't worry about the long term survival of AMD. Intel has to make sure AMD stays in business, so as to protect against being sued for monopoly business practices.
4 0 [Posted by: BernardP  | Date: 09/01/11 05:31:28 AM]
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Meanwhile, Gigabyte has posted the supported CPUs on their 990FX boards, confirming the Bulldozer lineup: http://hwbot.org/newsflas...fx_series_lineup_revealed

Top model is FX-8150 with 3'6Ghz as base clock and a TDP of 125W.
Then we have the FX-8120 3'1Ghz with a TDP of 125W and 95W. That means the 125W part will turbocore higher near FX-8150 numbers, should be the later one best binned it will get a bit more turbo, remember that bulldozer turbo is based on actual power consumption.

Then we have the FX-8100 on 2'8Ghz with 95W of TDP, the FX-6100 3'3Ghz and the FX-4100 3'6Ghz both with a TDP of 95W. High turbo comes to mind too, but not more than the FX-8150, these are 8 core bulldozers but with some modules disabled (they all have 8MB of L3 cache) so there are no chances to be high binned parts.
0 1 [Posted by: Filiprino  | Date: 09/01/11 05:32:03 AM]
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3.6ghz base clock? That better have 500-600mhz TurboBoost then for at least 4 of those cores in the 8 core chip. Most apps don't use more than 4 cores. So an FX8150 @ 3.6ghz is going head-to-head vs. 2600k @ 3.4ghz. Unless AMD improved performance per core A LOT, they won't beat SB.
0 0 [Posted by: BestJinjo  | Date: 09/01/11 11:37:46 AM]
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it will do better, it will have a 500mhz boot for all 8 cores in certain workloads.
0 0 [Posted by: Countess  | Date: 09/02/11 01:35:09 AM]
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If that is the case, maybe they should just move on and move their resources for Bulldozer to Piledriver instead... It is looking like by the time this chip comes out, their release window between Piledriver and Bulldozer would already have shrunk drastically. I think it would be better if they just scrap it and fix Piledriver instead since hey already have Llano and the upcoming Radeon card refresh to get some income.
0 0 [Posted by: goury  | Date: 09/01/11 08:15:16 AM]
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New Opterons not shipped yet? What are these, then?

http://www.smsassembly.co...GU-4-Core-OS6234WKTCGGU1/
http://www.smsassembly.co...34WKTCGGU-2.4GHz-12-Core/
http://www.smsassembly.co...276-OS6276WKTGGGU-2.3GHz/

"In stock, can ship today."

(Specs are a little wrong, though.)
0 1 [Posted by: dezz  | Date: 09/01/11 05:27:12 PM]
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If FX-8150 equals i7 2600K at a lower price point, with cheaper hardware support but with USB 3.0 and native SATA 6 , could you name this a flop? And if it's better, are you gonna admit? So what's the point here, AMD fans will use AMD and Intel fans will continue bragging and Nvidia fans will continue with false claims of superiority and the world will go on, business as usual.
0 0 [Posted by: mosu  | Date: 09/04/11 11:38:58 AM]
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This is ridiculous. EVERY time AMD announce a new Architecture it is late by 2-3 quarters. If they are having this much trouble with them then I don't know if I want one.

Intel Socket 1366 (I know it is being phased out, but still the best platform) is where I may go now. It's not like I'm going to save a lot anyway, the 8 core FX is MSRP $329.

I can get a decent Intel socket 1366 and board for just another few bucks.

I am a die-hard amd builder but I am sick and tired of AMDs delays.
0 0 [Posted by: fdunn  | Date: 09/04/11 06:33:29 PM]
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Oh noes! Something is a little bit late! Whiners.
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