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Even though Advanced Micro Devices is only due to release its FX-series code-named Zambezi microprocessor powered by Bulldozer micro-architecture later this month, the company is already showing off peculiarities of its next-generation platform for high-end desktops. Apparently, it will barely bring substantial improvement to performance.

The AMD "FX Next" platform due sometimes in 2012 based on the code-named Vishera microprocessors will have Piledriver x86 cores that will be just approximately 10% faster compared to Bulldozer micro-architecture-cores, according to a slide, which resembles those from AMD's presentations, published by Donanim Haber web-site. The 10% improvement represents AMD's projections "using digital media workload" and actual performance advantage over yet-to-be-made-available FX will vary depending on the applications and usage models. It is unclear whether AMD used an early silicon for its projections or makers its predictions based on theoretical data.

It is also unknown whether the projected performance increase will be conditioned by AMD Turbo Core 3.0 dynamic acceleration technology, new instructions support, higher clock-speeds or actual improvements of execution efficiency.

Not a lot is known about AMD's code-named Vishera chips, which are projected to succeed AMD FX "Zambezi" processors next year. People with knowledge of the matter indicated that the CPUs sport up to eight Piledriver (next-generation Bulldozer) x86 cores, dual-channel DDR3 memory controller, 8MB L2 cache and are compatible with AM3+ infrastructure as well as Scorpius platform featuring AMD 990FX core-logic sets. Although the new platform has its own code-name "Volan", some sources refer to it as "Scorpius Refresh".

AMD's FX-microprocessors code-named Vishera are projected to hit the market in the third quarter of 2012, but it is unclear whether it will be early July or late September.

AMD did not comment on the news-story.

Tags: AMD, Bulldozer, Piledriver, Vishera, Volan, Komodo, FX, 32nm

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You know i would actually like to see the release of the first gen Bulldozer before talking about the next gen! Getting Bulldozer released has been like an ongoing toothache for AMD.
8 2 [Posted by: SteelCity1981  | Date: 10/05/11 09:02:26 AM]
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me too, seriously AMD where are the new CPUs?

Don't fail, we need you to keep the prices low in CPU field against intel.
5 2 [Posted by: nitro912gr  | Date: 10/05/11 09:14:16 AM]
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I've grown tired of per-release hype, personally going forward with the belief of it shipped or didn't happen.
4 2 [Posted by: Kyrono  | Date: 10/05/11 09:39:04 AM]
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Judging hypothetical numbers that could have been faked (it wouldn't be the first time from donanimhaber) seems pointless. Especially because those hypothetical numbers compare performance to an unknown performance level. Until Zambezi is released and benched officially by multiple sources, there's no context for these hypothetical numbers.
1 1 [Posted by: dew111  | Date: 10/05/11 09:39:49 AM]
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2 8 [Posted by: visz963  | Date: 10/05/11 11:16:54 AM]
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They make money from graphics cards,

You could say the same thing about Intel

Horrid Graphics cards, Horrid performance intel will be bankrupt soon!

as you see its not really relavent how good or bad a product is.. its about if that product makes money and for now AMD is making enough to pay its bills and continue to research new tech so its all good.
3 3 [Posted by: vid_ghost  | Date: 10/05/11 03:29:40 PM]
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K7 and K8 literrally mopped the floor with Intel... too long ago to remember?
Their architectures are competitive enough, otherwise they would have bankrupted already.
1 0 [Posted by: Martian  | Date: 10/06/11 01:50:46 PM]
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Funny... AMD is NOT doomed. Not only do they produce good CPU designs, they keep CPU prices and performance in line with reality unlike certain criminals who try to establish an illegal monopoly.

While AMD has suffered it's fair share of production issues, so has Intel. This is part of the challenge of designing new production methodologies concurrently with new CPU architectures. It's much more challenging than many folks comprehend but we as consumers reap the benefits.
2 0 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 10/06/11 08:17:23 AM]
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But the point is that Intel's processors are superior across the board. Even better than Bulldozer, which is frankly becoming like Duke Nukem Forever vapourware.
0 2 [Posted by: qd50  | Date: 10/07/11 03:13:41 AM]
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No Intel's CPUs are not superior across the board. AMD CPUs excel in certain areas where Intel's do not. Laptops are a perfect example. Llano APUs are a much better design than Intel's CPUs for laptops and APUs are the obvious future for laptops and portables. That is why AMD has sold over 12 million in the past nine months and can't supply them fast enough to meet demand.

Then there is the new 6200/4200 Bulldozer based Opterons that out perform Intel CPUs for enterprise use and have a lower TCO.

Next is Bulldozer based Zambezi being released this week. They too will offer excellent performance to Intel but at a better price point. Only a very small segment of the PC market buys the leading edge, over-priced top of the line max frequency CPUs. Smart money buys the best performance/value CPUs and more often than not that is AMD.
3 1 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 10/09/11 05:13:49 AM]
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Quite right, my bad. When I wrote 'across the board' I meant the desktop processor space, which is what applies to me.

Sadly I have been proven spot on by today's Bulldozer reviews though.
1 0 [Posted by: qd50  | Date: 10/12/11 05:14:18 PM]
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In regards to the poster jmlxg: Put those synthetic benchmarks away and come back into reality.
There's nothing seriously wrong with Bulldozer, it does what it's meant to do. Anyhow this is a PR stunt by AMD. AMD's upper management obviously made the mistake in creating Bulldozer for the future. They were supposed to balance today and tomorrow in terms of performance. Anyhow, Bulldozer has its unique issues that should get resolved by the next B stepping just in time for Piledriver that should give it approx: 20% to 30% clock for clock performance boost over today's Bulldozer.

What messed up Bulldozer was the fact AMD took away precision hand work away (i.e.: Athlon and Athlon 64 etc.) and did the mistake of using and relying fully on automation. Big Mistake, so hopefully by the time Q3 2012 comes around; AMD would have fixed, tweaked and enhanced today's Bulldozer for tomorrows Piledriver Micro-Architecture.

I do give AMD credit for pure innovation and having steel balls for releasing not only a brand spanking new CPU design but also putting it onto a brand new manufacturing process - 32nm HKMG process. AMD's R&D department which has been gutted for some time now is still doing alright despite the limited resources. Hopefully the new CEO will turn things around and start putting pressure on Intel.
0 0 [Posted by: nt300  | Date: 12/28/11 07:25:41 PM]
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