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Earlier this year Advanced Micro Devices said that its forthcoming code-named Trinity accelerated processing unit would boost performance-per-watt by 50% compared to Llano. In the real-world applications, the company's new documents show that its next-gen APU will only be 20% faster in general-purpose tasks and 30% faster in graphics processing applications compared to existing chip.

According to a slide that resembles those from AMD's presentations published by DonanimHaber web-site, AMD projects Trinity's Piledriver x86 cores to offer up to 20% higher performance compared to Husky x86 cores inside Llano. In addition, the newly-architected DirectX 11 graphics core will provide up to 30% higher speed in graphics applications, such as video games. The 20% improvement represents AMD's projections "using digital media workload" and actual performance advantage over currently available Fusion A-series "Llano" vary depending on the applications and usage models. It is unclear whether AMD used an early silicon (which it has at hands) for its projections or makes its predictions based on theoretical data.

It is also unknown whether the projected performance increase will be conditioned by AMD Turbo Core 3.0 dynamic acceleration technology, new instructions support, higher clock-speeds or actual improvements of execution efficiency.

Since Trinity will be based on Bulldozer/Piledriver micro-architecture, AMD will have to clock the x86 cores at very high clock-speeds compared to existing offering to boost performance substantially since its latest micro-architecture in some cases is less efficient than the predecessor in terms of performance per core and per clock.

AMD’s second-generation code-named Trinity APU for mainstream personal computers (Comal for notebooks and Virgo for desktops) will be made using 32nm SOI HKMG process technology at Globalfoundries. The APU will feature up to four x86 cores powered by enhanced Bulldozer/Piledriver architecture, AMD Radeon HD 7000-series "Southern Islands" graphics core with DirectX 11-class graphics support, DDR3 memory controller and other improvements. The chips will be compatible with new FM2 infrastructure.

AMD claims that Trinity will offer up to 50% improvement in GFLOPS performance with the same power consumption as currently available A-series "Llano" APUs or similar GFLOPS horsepower with 50% reduction of power consumption.

AMD did not comment on the news-story.

Tags: AMD, Bulldozer, Trinity, Llano, 32nm, Piledriver, Virgo, Comal

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2 5 [Posted by: saneblane  | Date: 10/27/11 06:35:47 AM]
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Yeah, they need to make claims like Intel, where tocks are "60% faster" and ticks are "20%" faster.

All of their claims totaled up should mean that Ivy Bridge will be 5x faster than Core2 was, where it's actually not even close to being 2x faster.

The difference being that AMD gets called on any claim they make, even if reasonable, and Intel's claims are never questioned except by "rogue" journalists.
2 2 [Posted by: dukie_bref  | Date: 10/27/11 04:35:07 PM]
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Performance varies based on use. Duh.
7 2 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 10/27/11 06:37:53 AM]
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This claim will once again be Another Marketing Disaster! Customers want proof that you can deliver AMD, not just some claims and powerpoint slides!
5 5 [Posted by: dudde  | Date: 10/27/11 10:15:40 AM]
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0 3 [Posted by: Pouria  | Date: 10/27/11 11:55:01 AM]
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Bulldozer need fine tune.In other hand many forget that AMD Liano is faster in games than Intel SB if we not use discrete GPU.Intel GPU is crap dont support even DX 11.
3 1 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 10/27/11 02:34:06 PM]
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...and the foolishness continues even when Llano already far exceeds Intel's integrated graphics and overall system performance on laptops. Trinity is a laptop CPU or entry level desktop. Geesh people should educate themselves.
3 3 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 10/27/11 02:50:54 PM]
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0 4 [Posted by: dudde  | Date: 10/27/11 04:29:13 PM]
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0 4 [Posted by: madooo12  | Date: 10/28/11 07:37:28 AM]
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Here's a pro-tip AMD:

Don't promise what you can't deliver and don't send your marketing guys like JF-AMD to forums to claim IPC increases, performance improvements, etc when your new Bulldozer desktop part is even beaten by your PREVIOUS line-up in some benchmarks.

Its really fun how JF-AMD is really quiet now in many forums when he was touting IPC increases in the new architecture. Also funny when your other marketing guys at the AMD blogs tries to spin the reaction from many review sites of Bulldozer.

http://blogs.amd.com/play...10/13/our-take-on-amd-fx/

Oh and their really shitty head to head video which you can see here:

http://blogs.amd.com/play/2011/10/19/truth-in-numbers/

Spin, spin, spin. Don't count on AMD to commit to their roadmaps, their performance targets, their promises. They had years to get Bulldozer up to speed and they screwed it up.

If you want the better CPU, get the Intel 2500-K:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/19
4 0 [Posted by: RtFusion  | Date: 10/27/11 03:58:51 PM]
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Good luck AMD. I wish you all the best. I dont want to see a monopoly in cpu bussiness.
2 3 [Posted by: george1976  | Date: 10/27/11 04:01:08 PM]
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In spite of the technical ignorance spewed, AMD is doing just fine, thank you.

http://www.anandtech.com/...mil-on-strong-llano-sales
2 4 [Posted by: beenthere  | Date: 10/27/11 05:43:11 PM]
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Trinity being 20% faster than present Llano processors. That makes AMD happy because the present Bulldozer or FX-8150 does already or are they counting for the 10% boost from Windows 8 plus any enhancements in the microcode. Also the Phenom II X6 1100T has better performance than the Llano processor.

AMD let us be honest your present processor just stinks and stop providing false advertising about your future processors that have no gains over your competition. Intel is your competition, not your processors.
2 1 [Posted by: tecknurd  | Date: 10/27/11 10:52:52 PM]
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What a passions here... If AMD was never be. About what do you were talking? "Oh ye!!! Our lovely Intel is releasing new CPU!!! And it costs ONLY 1000$. And its 1% faster than predecessor!!!" And all hype about what video card doing 100 and other 120 FPS. In real world you cant see the diference. Or my CPU unzips file 5 seconds faster. It is ridiculous. If I were a gamer I will go with some i5 CPU, but if I were making some rendering o calculation stations I will go with FX.
Millions people is using Atoms, and for them is enough. So in that perspective why Liano looking crap? I think Intel has very very good marketing department...
3 4 [Posted by: kvarta  | Date: 10/27/11 11:15:55 PM]
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sure .I dont hate Intel cpu ,but man ,Intel fanboy exaggerate.Atom is Intel best sell product.
0 2 [Posted by: Blackcode  | Date: 10/28/11 04:38:11 AM]
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Good God the hate and technical ignorance spewed is appalling. Thankfully those who vote with their wallet have made AMD profitable. With Trinity coming next and Piledriver in '12 I suspect AMD will do just fine. If you don't like their products, don't but them.
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